o ive been on this from teh begining but havent really tried it. tried spraying it and it sux so im probably going to use the roller method. i've been trying to get a darker red color. fire red is to orangey/red. i went to canadian tire and they have a tint base so i asked the lady what colors they have and she pulled out a folder with "tremclad paint codes" and she pulled the section where they had red paints...except i couldnt tell the difference from one red to another because it was printed and it was laminated. anyone have any comments etc?