All this stuff about death rates this year vs last year - help me understand.
Are you trying to make a point that COVID-19 is not real (like some kind of conspiracy theory)?
If that's the case, then is it normal for some areas to set up temporary morgues or use refrigerated semi trailers to store all the dead bodies, like some of the reports I have read? Is it normal to have to send a US military hospital ship to certain places to help with hospital overload? If not normal, then why are we asking about death rates? It doesn't make sense.
I dunno, I tend to be somewhat logical in my thinking, and some of the stuff I read from time to time seems 'way out there', as if to prove some kind of point that isn't even clear.
The examples you quote are actually good examples of over reaction by our leaders. Not so much as to the ferocity of the virus.
And funny you should mention the USN Comfort to make the point that you were trying to make. That was an overreaction to totally inaccurate predictions. You did know that the ship left New York early after having treated only 189 people, don't you? https://www.navytimes.com/news/your...-having-treated-fewer-than-200-patients/
People are dying. And some of those deaths probably could have been prevented. But to shut down much of the nation over this is not the answer. Especially the way it was done. More and more people are seeing this for what it really was. And that erodes even further what little confidence that folks have in their leaders.
I'm curious as to what kind of point you think I was trying to make. I only want to understand why normal intelligent people want to doubt that this virus exists.
Whether politicians of all stripes overestimated or underestimated its effects is yet to be seen, I think. To place judgement on it right now, as things are just opening up again is premature IMHO. Wait a year, and let's look back then and see how it went. But the fact remains that something had to be done...
As I mentioned in another post, this has affected the entire world, who have had various levels of success in dealing with it. Some have done really well, some have done horribly. History will tell us who did the best and who did the worst.
But for people to suggest that it doesn't exist, or that it's just like some normal flu bug sounds like people who want to deny the truth IMHO. Then the whole other aspect that comes out, when I see some people blame everything on one political party... their motives start to become more clear.
IMHO, both parties have done good things, both have done bad. All levels of government have done both well and poorly. But one thing I have noticed is that all levels of government, both parties included, have become very dysfunctional, mostly due to choosing to fight one another rather than working together. Both sides and all levels have not cohesively worked together to accomplish a common goal, which should have been to understand the virus, decide the best method to deal with it, check how they are doing, and then adjust their methods/strategies as they learned more (classic PDCA for anyone involved in project management). Instead, they all just fight one another, try to destroy the others' reputations, create a bunch of lies and confusion to hide the facts, etc. It's shameful, really, and all parties at all levels should really look inward and try to discover how to fix this. But they won't... they'll just blame the other side, and their supporters will carry on the same level of dysfunctional infighting right down to the lowest levels, like freakin internet forums, like we're all reading right here. Keep it up and the country is going to fall apart, while the other powerful nations in the world are standing back and watching, ready to take advantage.
This is why I hate politics, and why I wish the mods would clean the politics out of this thread... even this very post if they wish. It disgusts me.
