Re: the 80k number - Fauci believes it's understated. I feel all this back and forth is created by the powers as a distraction of what is actually happening. We are having a pandemic. The operating parameters that the powers have implemented are rife for being taken out of context. The experts appear to me been directed to not distribute facts that everyone needs to know. Engineering the outcome of a pandemic cannot be done. Statements like I believe, I think, I suppose, I'd like, etc. have nothing to do in the response to the pandemic that people should be scared of. We are becoming afraid of the very experts that are supposed to get through this as whole and complete as they can. It's a biological crisis first, the rest is fallout. The powers need to provide their bosses, us, the facts. If not enjoy the wicked ride.