Originally Posted by DaveRS23
There's that 80,000 number again. Every time I see the latest number of Corona fatalities, I want to re-post this response from Illinois' Director of Public Health saying directly that anyone and everyone that tests positive for the virus at the time of death is counted as a Coronavirus death regardless of the actual cause of death. Couple that with the fact that no one knows how many folks actually have the virus and the only logical conclusion you can draw is that the charts and predictions based on those numbers are meaningless. Absolutely meaningless. And that is borne out by the fact that basically all of the casualty predictions on this have been totally wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEDjjl41xHU

But one thing is for sure, there are fewer deaths from the virus than are reported (at least in Illinois which has the 6th largest number) and there is very likely many more people infected than are being estimated. Think for a minute of the ramifications that has on the decisions being made.

More and more experts are saying that the virus is contagious enough and has spread widely enough that basically everyone will be exposed to it at sooner or later. There really is not much way at this point to prevent that. The only thing now that can save the people that are most vulnerable to this virus is an effective vaccine or treatment because we simply cannot quarantine forever.



Which means I'll repost this as well grin

Even if we counted every single death as being incorrectly from Covid, we have a whole bunch more deaths than we normally see this time of year.

I agree that some areas are overcounting deaths. In other places we're undercounting them. As these charts show however, we're still seeing a lot more people die than we would expect.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/04/16/tracking-covid-19-excess-deaths-across-countries

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/86127

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The Fire Department of New York received nearly 200 additional calls per day for deaths at home in early April, according to a Gothamist report. This increase prompted New York City to begin tracking probable COVID-19 deaths last week, when officials added more than 3,700 deaths in a day to the overall fatality count, The New York Times reported.


Are they faking the extra amount of calls they got for dead people at home? Is there a reason that would spike?


If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck.