RMCHGR, Did you get a good laugh after seeing my spaghetti farm under the dash? Good points and depending on the car and its options, the extra wiring could add up to maybe a pound at most or ounces as you stated. I've given serious thought to cleaning up, eliminating and rerouting wires under my office dash for years now, and it's about time I do so. This Winter, schedule permitting, I will go under with the solder gun, electrical sealing tape and clippers in hand. It's almost like deep sea diving under there on your back, even if it is as spartan as a Bachelors refrigerator. I guess this only matters to those that have been down the chain of every weight loss idea, but ounces do mount up eventually and that leads to pounds. I particularly love this comment by RMCHGR because it only cost a Summers afternoon and some pizza to achieve, plus I love a clean managed under dash.