thanks for the hlep guys. The primer I was wondering about was the roll on that was marketed to body shops to be used instead of spray on primer/surfacer. it seems like a lot of the color sanding being done with the roller method is actually sanding that levels the paint and helps smooth the body. I want my primer to be perfectly flat prior to roller paint. I am thinking of using this paint on a 63 impala and I think the briteside red is going to be too bright for this car, i was looking more for a maroon/dark red so I guess ill have to experiment with the briteside mixing and see how it goes.