oh, and for polishing it took me about 10hrs to polish my car.. the sun cooked me. Then I went over with a less aggressive polisher.. but didnt put in enough time on it.. I think just 3hrs.. it looked good enough with the turtle wax - for me.. after waxing it looked stupid shiny.. I can see every drip, peel, thin paint, inconsistancy, etc.. [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean].. but _still_ looks ok, haha