I hear you Brad, these look interesting to me, I'm just running a set of lowly OOTB (essentially) stealths, but the question is do I send them to modern for 1K and get them CNCed or pony up extra and start with the Trick Flows. Flow will be similar but a bigger port with the CNCed Stealth (not exactly sure how much bigger), will have to wait and see, and really investigate the options and the ceiling on the Trick Flows. Plus I may need another set of pushrods. And the money spent at Modern gives me a good VJ, which is sounds like the Trick Flows can use a better valve job like all of the other OOTB heads? I need plenty of other stuff for my car before I even get there though. I know you've invested WAY MORE in that Victor setup how are you doing getting past all of the hurdles?