Well I haven't been following this engine master thing so I can't comment..but what I can say is I have used Engle cams on and off for over 15 years and never had one fail..yes they were his fast rate grinds..I'd sooner use an Engle cam than a purple or MP cam...and Hughes buys his cams from Jack..so if you completely disallow these fast rate cams that Hughes is selling I think your going to miss out on some good grinds...Because an Engle fast rate cam is LIGHT YEARS ahead of those old MP cams..IMO Engle fast rate cams are worth a look...

it's just too bad that this had to happen...everyone looses