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You boys about done with the crap so the rest of us here can try and learn something?



Ted, I am trying to learn something here......

Monte says he HAS and WILL win, in a heads up class, with a 632 engine, which has a 4.6 bore x 4.75 stroke,..... but Tim claims that an engine with what he himself calls "stupid" and "Geometrically retarded" bore/stroke like that will not only Never win a heads up race, but will Never EVER win....

Tom says these 2 are very sharp and when they talk, he listens....yet he wants to build a 4.7 bore x 5.5 Minimum stroke engine.....

It is confusing and to me very contradicting statements by 3 guys that each appear to know their stuff. But they all can't be correct....



THere are more than 1 way to skin a cat. Just because Monte and I disagree on engine geometry is not a big deal. What is a big deal is guys like you who have no compass. I have fired customers like you, and I'm proud I have done it. If you don't like what I say, blow off. You can't learn, won't learn.

If I was building what Tom is doing, I would build a 4.560 bore (bigger if I could get it) and use a 4.00 stroke for 523 inches. I would use the absolute longest rod in the tallest block I could buy. My thought is 1250-1275 HP at 8800. That should be high 6's if the rest of the combo is right. And 8800 is not a lot with todays valve train.

See how simple that is.


BTW, it would have 2x4's on it because I think the silliest thing you can do is handicap a package with a kinked up intake.


Flame on keyboard hero.



You just keep up with the personal name-calling and attacks...and conveniently ignore facts......

According to what YOU say.....Monte has and never EVER will win a heads-up Race with his "silly" and "geometrically retarded" engine combo....He and others may disagree......So it appears your theory's work better on the keyboard than in real life !! Monte said he just won a race a few weeks ago !!! End of Story !!

And your friend Tom hasn't even hired you to build his engine...wonder why ?? Maybe he has doubts about your beliefs....wait, not maybe, he obviously ignored you completely and has been for years !!




How do you KNOW what I do? I knew some guys would come on here and tell me how good their GM copy cat stuff is. Innovation went out the window. How many comp guys are running 1.0 B/S ratios (or less).

The math also says I'm correct. 532 CID will make the exact same HP as a 632 CID, except the 532 will do it at a higher RPM. And that, my silly friend , will make the 532 QUICKER than the 632, if the guy with the car understands how to make the best of the RPM.

And that, my silly little friend, is a whole 'nother can of worms. It's much easier to use a powerglide than fix your junk, nonhooking car. Can't tell you how many engines I have done (especially dirt cars) where we made more HP on the dyno and went slower on the track. All the circle track gurus (and all the kings men) couldn't get the junk cars to hook. When they finally got sick of getting beat, they fixed their junk chassis and started winning. Silly little boys
Or how about the 13 second dude who says the starting line is crap, and his junk blew the tires off because the track guys cut the pimp juice and cost him the round, and 15 minutes later a guy runs a high 8 on 275's? Fix your junk.


Later dude.

Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston