jared,, i dont know if charlie said it here or in an email to me but that wasnt his good motor in the car,, it was john rains' #2 motor,, id expect charlies motor to be .10 quicker all day long,, maybe .12-.13.. though even at that you dont know if they threw all the tricks at it just testing at martin,, chilling, oil, and so on..

i havent been looking at time slips and all the incremental times for very long, id think if the stick car was to 60 ft like the auto, which i dont know if they can yet but im sure if jr went a 1.16, sr could go a 1.18,, then you look at the 4sp gaining on the auto all the way down i actually see that run as a 8.37-8.38,, if it left the line like i know it could.


jeff