Wow! You guys are something else,I wanted and thought it be best to end this thread,no new blood,didn't seem like there was any new interest,I applaud you, and Terry it was fun once again,to see ya!...you gotta get to Lebanon,and yes I'm busy, Barry and I are trying to start something up... hopefully it will work out... , we still have that drive,lookin foward to Carlilse ,next year...