Originally Posted By fullmetaljacket


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I bet the same can be said of why A GOOD AMOUNT of other makes out there are running on lap topped electronic injected units and twin hairdryers or single Saxophones while a good amount,BUT NOT ALL Mopars are still on manifold mounted Carburetors tweaked by pocket screw drivers and drill bits. Some higher level things are just simpler, more advanced and precise for THOSE IN LINE FOR IT with a pinch of mystery whether they go fast or not.
Some other DONE THAT, BEEN THERE things and springs are just simpler, cheaper and nostalgic for those in line for it with a pinch of mystery whether they go fast or not. I mean, carbs are still being figured out! correct? ThumperD and others that he gives credit to have proven that with good results and the same could be said about springs coming around as well especially with alternative engineering methods the likes of Cal-tracs, Launchers, assassin bars or back door blacksmithing.
At the end or beginning, we're all trying to pass a bill for cars that NEVER are QUITE FINISHED. If they were finished, so would we.

In all seriousness, I understood Monte's question from a few points and correct me if I'm wrong, In getting into the molecules and beliefs of these leafs, he probably just wanted to kick the can down the road a little bit to see what the consensus among racers are still doing about this crucial component of performance with maybe hoping that SOME WOULD EXPERIMENT with alternatives like he did or just graduate to higher levels through this type of discourse. or........... MAYBE he's mystified on the mystery and just wanted to break into the safe of the "DIRECT CONNECTION" safe haven and get down to the nuts (us) and bolts of these parts.

So here's my card. I'm a traditionalist..... and because of that maybe I'm a candidate for self inflicted struggle to get where I supposedly think I should be, but for many reasons that are eggshell bombshells, I am happy right where I'm at with Leafs and that is all that matters as well as for others that think the same or are JUST STARTING with their cars.

In short, I value Monte's and others on here with their word and sometimes hook and sinker threads because that is what stirs the moving parts within Moparts. He has a lot of valuable information based on the fast cars he's run through the years and the fast crowd that he runs with.




This is the point EXACTLY. If you just keep regurgitating the same old info, nothing changes. Some are reluctant to post opposing views, because if it seems you are saying some of the "sacred old stuff" really isn't that great, you get unloaded on with both barrels. Old school works for many people and if that's what they want, that's fine. But about anything you did back in the 60s, 70s, 80s, even 90s, there ARE better ways to do it now. Nobody is saying the old ways won't and didn't work, but not EVERYONE wants to do it that way. If you can't have a reasonable discussion of the merits and the downfalls, because the "purists" get upset, how will anybody learn anything new.

Some want to run that old Mushroom cam they have on the shelf.....that's fine. But why does it make you mad when somebody else says there are things that work better and that's old technology? We all KNOW it's true.

I have also not seen anyone running down cast iron heads here either. But the point has been made several times, that if much cash outlay is involved in getting the iron heads ready to go, aluminum heads end up being a cheaper and better alternative. It's true and we all know it's true. Same goes for rescuing those old rods with a recon and new bolts. New rods is usually cheaper

I see the same things in the gun world, where I also participate on a fairly large level. In that area, I am strictly a traditionalist. Meaning I like pretty wood stocked rifles with nice shiny blued actions. I am a minority, as most prefer the black plastic, light weight, satin finish or stainless rifles now. I hate that look, but don't bemoan anyone for making that choice. They are cheaper and shoot great, that I can not deny. Same way on pistols. Plastic and polymer striker fired pistols, I don't own one and won't. Give me a steel auto with an exposed hammer, or a shiny revolver any day. But again I don't begrudge the new trends, because they are fine guns......I just don't like them.

So while many are happy with "old school" here........that's fine, it works for you. Be good with your choice. You don't have to defend your position, but you also shouldn't get mad when it is pointed out there are better, more modern ways to skin the cat. In the end, either way the cat is dead, but one way might be easier.......LOL!!!