The ones who say mind own business I understand and agree bugging them as a whole not the most grown up way to handle it but look at it this way. Has this thread worked for the OP? Is he getting through to them alone after 8 years? Will they loose business from this thread alone? Yes to an extent but maybe just maybe a little help might not hurt the 50's chances of getting $ back. I agree the silence from the business or him alone is not looking the best. I'll just sit back and watch to see the outcome.