I never intended this thread to turn in the direction it has. I did not think John would have allowed this to go on and maybe its gone on to long. But remember this is no one else's fault but John himself. It seems to me that people not even involved by this are getting hurt the most, members of this forum, his employee's, business relationships, etc...

John it's time to man up, pay back whom ever you owe and put this matter to rest.

For the respect of John's employee' and friends future comments should be more in line with getting this problem resolved in a manner that is fair to only those involved.

Thanks,
Jim