I would speculate I have WAY more time street racing than you do, I used to put food on the table street racing. Street raced from the late 80's til 2008 all over the west and Midwest, finally stopped when it became a felony CA and they confiscated and crushed your car if caught. But that is just a guess. Can tell you we never bothered racing for a few hundred bucks either, to much risk for to little return there.

I am pretty sure my point about moving before the green was strictly aimed at racing at the track but maybe I was not clear, seemed like I was but maybe not. I also pointed out that IMO the car on SO CEARLY did not move before the light came on IMO. But maybe that was not clear to you either.

I also agree the money holder and starter should both be neutral parties. Always were when we street raced, then again we never made a spectacle of ourselves either as that draws unwanted attention.


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