I still remember the guy at 75-80 w/ the pretty 383 Runner that had a .509" cam, some off-brand 10" converter, 3.55s (at most), etc. He had his hopes up thinking he was going to bust into the 12s, only to see them completely deflated w/ mid-to-high 15-second ETs. I could tell from chatting w/ him briefly that he didn't want to hear anything about how his combination was just plain wrong, either.