You know, I like the Indy stuff, the parts seem to make good power, but I was treated the same way by Russ, both on the phone and in person. I do not have a single Indy part on my engine, and it has ran a best of 9.65 @ 140, one of Russ's many remarks was that basically I was too dumb to build an engine that would go in the 9's just buy a complete one from Indy. I explained to Russ or tried to, that building the car to me was more fun than racing it. And I know, my engine could be a little faster with Indy stuff, but who cares, its all index's or dial-in's anyway.