Finally got my ladder bars, diagonal link and crossmember from Smith Racecraft. Holy Crap!!! This stuff is absolute max killer. I don't think a rocket launcher attached to my car would even flex these things. And, boy, Racecraft doesn't skimp on making sure you are ready to go. Safety loops are double layered. Axle brackets are 1/4" full tube wrap profiled with lightening holes, with shock mount holes and what may look like wheelie bar holes also. They even give you a new set of lower shock mounts with hardware. Ladder bar front mounts are profiled with lightening holes also. All joints are what look like Teflon heim joints. I'll post pics on the weekend side by side with my old school Alston ladder bars. This looks like smurfs vs. King Kong. The only thing I'm pissed about is now I can't put this killer setup on my crappy old rusted Dana housing. Glad I didn't make up a race budget this year, it's about to go right out the window.