Thank you for your input. I have given it much consideration before putting them in. Most modern day pro mods are switching to double frame rails to stiffen the front end. Maybe it's for another reason? Any ways a single 1 5/8 moly bar is much more solid then the factory frame rail would be. I look at it like a lever, bars close together must be strong, further away not as much. Do I need this? Maybe not, but I'm sure this 3 lbs will stiffen the front end up a ton. I will start tieing in the mid plate this weekend