Jeeze, I didn't recognize Koffel. The guy you're not certain of vaguely reminds me of Roger Lindamood, but I'm sure I'd be wrong on that one as well lol. Are Grotheer or Miller involved in any nostalgia racing these days at all Stuart? I know you had a recent photo of Grotheer with Buddy Martin and Dick Oldfield. Hard to peg some of these guys in the older pics with the crew cuts, lol.