I make headers all the time(thats part of what I did at Chrysler)... these are 1 7/8" econo W-2 headers I made for my Rampage... I did the flanges also... this is 3.5" collectors EDIT the flanges started out as 1 piece, that makes it easier to set it up and for welding then I cut them down to what you see.. they are also 3/8 thick so no worping