Pat, I had the same thought path as you did (I was the one who built this trans for Mike).
If the OD roller was seized it would absolutely act like this.
You sound like a man who speaks from experience that the spring and roller in the OD can be backwards (upside down). However I'm not sure how that's possible, or if it would even act like this if you did?
The spring cage is made in such a way that the top lip (when assembled correctly) can not pass through the outer race. If you try to put it in upside down then the cage won't assemble. This was a brand new roller/cage assembly. Also, if the springs were forcing the rollers away from the ramps, then I believe the roller clutch would never lock up regardless of direction. The rollers would always be held off the ramps no matter which way the roller was spun?
The other thing that doesn't make sense is that Mike had this trans working in 1st and 2nd last year with the OD turned on (Manual switch). He says it would actually over drive in 1st and 2nd. This is against what normal valve bodies would do, but I have no idea what the trans go kit allows?
Now the OD switch does not cause any issues in 1st/2nd... only direct. If the roller was in backwards/upside down, and could cause an issue as you described it should do it in 1st and 2nd too... not just 3rd. This also would eliminate the clutch stackup height being wrong causing the issue. UNLESS Mike was mistaken last year and the OD never actually was doing anything in 1st or 2nd.
In that case it would open back up all of the OD issues (tight clutch or roller clutch).
I don't see how the clutch clearance could do it though. You're literally turning the OD direct clutches off when the piston is applied. If the piston moves far enough to apply the OD clutches, is it even possible that the direct clutches could still be on? I could see if the direct clutches were screwed up in that they had an extra clutch in them or something, that the stack might be so tight the OD piston could not move at all. But in that case this limited movement wouldn't allow the OD clutches to apply anyway?
I told Mike to take the car out tomorrow and drive it in manual second. With some speed up flip the OD switch and see if it actually "shifts". If it does... the OD unit would seem to be functioning correctly and would lead me to a valvebody (Check ball?) or wiring issue somehow causing the reverse/low band to apply.
The other thing Mike and I talked about tonight was the wiring. The connector was lost this winter and the trans was re-wired. With this rebuilt manual valve body/transgo kit that's in this thing, I have no idea what would happen if you turned the lock up circuit on. Looking at the valve body flow diagrams it doesn't appear that fluid could get from the LU circuit into the low band anyway, but who knows with the trans go kit that's in there I suppose.
Any/all help is welcome...
Sorry for a late response, I haven't been able to log on the last 2 days.
Remember, the only reason the OWC is in the OD section is to eliminate a 4-3 or 4-2 flare, or a 3-4 flare. The OD direct clutches really do nothing going forward in 1st,2nd, and 3rd as the OWC is locked in the direction of engine rotation thus sending the power to the driveshaft. In 4th, the OD brake clutches apply, thus releasing the OD direct clutches, the OWC starts to freewheel, and you get OD. If you can make the OD brake clutches come on at will, you can overdrive any forward gear. In reverse, the OWC is freewheeling as you are turning the driveshaft opposite of engine rotation, thus the OD direct clutches carry all the load. If the clearance of the OD direct clutches is not correct (it is set by the selective on the OD brake piston)you can get a bind on the 3-4, a slip in reverse, or when real bad, no reverse.
There is no adjustment for the OD brake clutches, it is preset. There is a measurement that must be made to set the OD direct clutches.
I have never seen the OWC be installed backwards, but it can be done. I am a production transmission builder, 31 years now, and also consult on a couple transmission technical sites and have heard of more than one person install the OWC backwards. It must freewheel CCW, lock CW.
Please let us know what you find.
