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1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details #1609606 04/19/14 08:49 PM 04/19/14 08:49 PM
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Mopucky OP enthusiast M Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 374 New York	Hi, I am in the process of assembly and painting the engine in my 71 Cuda. It is a 340 4 speed with Air Conditioning. I'm looking for pics and info on what needs to be bolted on the engine for paint, especially timing cover/water pump bolts and washers. I want to get this as close to factory as possible. I have seen that some bolts were panted and backed off to put on brackets. Any pics/info will be greatly appreciated!

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: Mopucky] #1609607 04/19/14 09:00 PM 04/19/14 09:00 PM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,468 So Cal	Quote: Hi, I am in the process of assembly and painting the engine in my 71 Cuda. It is a 340 4 speed with Air Conditioning. I'm looking for pics and info on what needs to be bolted on the engine for paint, especially timing cover/water pump bolts and washers. I want to get this as close to factory as possible. I have seen that some bolts were panted and backed off to put on brackets. Any pics/info will be greatly appreciated! Some other info will help others answer your questions with engine details: What is the SPD date of the car? Is the car N95 california emissions?

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: autoxcuda] #1609608 04/19/14 09:58 PM 04/19/14 09:58 PM
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Mopucky OP enthusiast M Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 374 New York	Fender tag build date on car is 104 No N94 emissions on tag

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: Mopucky] #1609609 04/19/14 10:09 PM 04/19/14 10:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Ok, you should have an orange engine assembled at the Windsor Ontario plant. Here are a few that might get you on your way. This shows all of the parts which were attached before the engines were painted. Those two straps you see with the chains connected to them are original factory engine handling straps. A few of these were left on engines (likely by mistake) and I searched around and scrounged them up so I could paint the engine leaving the appropriate bare areas that they covered small areas on the ends of the heads while the engine was painted. 8118015-340beforepaint.jpg (804 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609610 04/19/14 10:10 PM 04/19/14 10:10 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	After paint. 8118016-340afterpaint.jpg (680 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609611 04/19/14 10:11 PM 04/19/14 10:11 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	With most or the small parts added 8118017-8084925-340Door7.jpg (2989 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609612 04/19/14 10:12 PM 04/19/14 10:12 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	2 8118019-3402.jpg (677 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609613 04/19/14 10:13 PM 04/19/14 10:13 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	There are A LOT of small unique details on these engines, date codes, part#'s, etc. The choke is stamped "75" as are the reproductions, however, the reproductions lack the second smaller stamping which is "BA 148". The choke rod is also stamped with a tiny "527". Reproductions are blank. 8118023-8084928-Choke.jpg (479 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609614 04/19/14 10:25 PM 04/19/14 10:25 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Here are a batch of some of the smaller details 8118040-1.jpg (728 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609615 04/19/14 10:25 PM 04/19/14 10:25 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	A 8118043-3.jpg (573 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609616 04/19/14 10:26 PM 04/19/14 10:26 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	B 8118044-AirCleanerWingNut.jpg (486 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609617 04/19/14 10:27 PM 04/19/14 10:27 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	C 8118046-Alternator2.jpg (566 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609618 04/19/14 10:28 PM 04/19/14 10:28 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	D 8118048-Alternator.jpg (458 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609619 04/19/14 10:29 PM 04/19/14 10:29 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	E 8118049-bolts.jpg (757 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609620 04/19/14 10:29 PM 04/19/14 10:29 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	F 8118052-AlternatorBracketBolts.jpg (432 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609621 04/19/14 10:30 PM 04/19/14 10:30 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	G 8118054-PowerSteeringPumpBolts.jpg (406 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609622 04/19/14 10:31 PM 04/19/14 10:31 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	H 8118056-BreatherSilverClamp.jpg (397 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609623 04/19/14 10:31 PM 04/19/14 10:31 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	This is an NOS date coded Alternator belt. It's only going to see show use, I'll be putting a reproduction on for street duty. 8118057-AlternatorBelt.jpg (403 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609624 04/19/14 10:32 PM 04/19/14 10:32 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	J 8118059-PSCoolerDate.jpg (395 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609625 04/19/14 10:33 PM 04/19/14 10:33 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	K 8118063-PowerSteeringPumpTop.jpg (375 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609626 04/19/14 10:34 PM 04/19/14 10:34 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	L 8118067-CarbVentHose.jpg (359 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609627 04/19/14 10:35 PM 04/19/14 10:35 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	M 8118068-ChokeBolt75-BA148.jpg (340 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609628 04/19/14 10:36 PM 04/19/14 10:36 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	N 8118069-ChokeClip.jpg (315 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609629 04/19/14 10:36 PM 04/19/14 10:36 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Original choke well gaskets were thick and made of an asbestos composite (this one is NOS). 8118070-ChokeWellGasket.jpg (319 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609630 04/19/14 10:37 PM 04/19/14 10:37 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Rear Coil bracket mounting bolt head marking had an "E" and was plated a yellow/zinc color. 8118071-CoiBracketRearBolt.jpg (441 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609631 04/19/14 10:37 PM 04/19/14 10:37 PM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,468 So Cal	Quote: Ok, you should have an orange engine assembled at the Windsor Ontario plant. Here are a few that might get you on your way. This shows all of the parts which were attached before the engines were painted. Is that actually an 71 A-body motor? Would an E-body just have a different drivers exhaust manifold? Everything else the same. Last edited by autoxcuda; 04/19/14 10:39 PM.

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609632 04/19/14 10:38 PM 04/19/14 10:38 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Quote: Is that actually an 71 A-body motor? Would an E-body just have a different drivers exhaust manifold? Everything else the same. Yes, correct, that and the engine mount is a different shape for E-body The front coil mount strap bolt had an "F" shaped head marking and was black/grey phosphate. 8118073-CoilBracketFrontBolt.jpg (314 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609633 04/19/14 10:38 PM 04/19/14 10:38 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	This is a reproduction coil made by M&H Wire. They are the closest match to my originals in terms of the ink stampings. Aside from the stampings, all modern replacement coils (like this one) lack some details as compared to originals which have either "Made in USA" or "Made in Canada" molded into the ends (my car should have had "Made in Canada") reproductions don't have either. Originals are also about .25" shorter than reproductions. 8118074-CoilStamping.jpg (275 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609634 04/19/14 10:39 PM 04/19/14 10:39 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Notice that the coil wire has a white ink printing as opposed to yellow? I have only seen this on originals, all reproductions are yellow. 8118078-CoilWire.jpg (321 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609635 04/19/14 10:39 PM 04/19/14 10:39 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Distributor clamps were steel with a very thin copper plating which was burnished with a very thin/low quality dark coating that appears like black phosphate, copper color shows through in several areas. 8118080-DistributorAdvanceDecal.jpg (394 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609636 04/19/14 10:40 PM 04/19/14 10:40 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Correct NOS distributor cap, all originals should have "Made in USA" molded in. 8118082-DistributorCap.jpg (344 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609637 04/19/14 10:41 PM 04/19/14 10:41 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	V 8118085-PlugWires.jpg (349 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609638 04/19/14 10:41 PM 04/19/14 10:41 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	W 8118086-PlugWireDate2.jpg (314 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609639 04/19/14 10:42 PM 04/19/14 10:42 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	All original vacuum hoses were ribbed like this one, this one is NOS. 8118087-DistributorVacuumAdvanceHoseRibs.jpg (322 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609640 04/19/14 10:43 PM 04/19/14 10:43 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	All original Keystone clamps I've seen were stamped with this 615 number. This is a reproduction, it differs from an original in that the 615 is stamped upside down as compared to an original. 8118090-FuelFilterClampNumber.jpg (257 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609641 04/19/14 10:43 PM 04/19/14 10:43 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	This is an NOS and date correct early 1971 Fuel filter. The ink stamping is a lighter shade of blue as compared to reproductions. These were supplied to the line as assemblies with clamps and pre cut fuel lines as shown. I used reproductions on my engine and stashed this one for reference purposes. 8118092-FuelFilterNOS.jpg (262 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609642 04/19/14 10:44 PM 04/19/14 10:44 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Here is the reproduction fuel filter. Notice how much brighter and bold the KV stamping is? Close but no cigar, font and pattern is decent but it's too bright, and very obvious when compared to an NOS original. 8118093-FuelFilter.jpg (293 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609643 04/19/14 10:44 PM 04/19/14 10:44 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	A2 8118095-FuelFilterDate.jpg (247 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609644 04/19/14 10:45 PM 04/19/14 10:45 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	This is a reproduction fuel pump but it's properly detailed, bolts included. I also have the original which has been restored but chose to stash it for the restoration engine I'm building (this is the stroker motor so it's going to get plenty of street time and will be using up wear items). 8118097-fuelpump.jpg (310 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609645 04/19/14 10:47 PM 04/19/14 10:47 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Here's the fan pulley, the fan and clutch were not yet restored when these shots were taken. Bolts are correct and plated properly. 8118102-FanBolts.jpg (354 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609646 04/19/14 10:47 PM 04/19/14 10:47 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	So far all leads on the correct dip stick color point to black paint being correct. I was starting to think they were bare steel but based on a few good survivors and an NOS version I found, they were painted (likely dipped) in black paint which was very thin and flaked off easily so most went south in a hurry leaving a bare steel handle. 8118103-DipStick.jpg (316 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609647 04/19/14 10:48 PM 04/19/14 10:48 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	The heater hose bracket bolt (as well as many other attaching bolts holding a non painted part to the engine) were black/gray phosphate. 8118105-HeaterHoseBracketBolt.jpg (385 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609648 04/19/14 10:49 PM 04/19/14 10:49 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	A8 8118106-HeaterHoseLarge.jpg (318 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609649 04/19/14 10:49 PM 04/19/14 10:49 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Reproduction heater hoses have the correct shape and features but the ink stampings need some work. The ink easily wipes off if you lay hands on it, and it's too bright white and chalky looking. Original stampings were a deeper shade of white and were far more durable when handled or cleaned, the lettering sheen was more like that of the rubber hose and was not chalky looking. 8118109-HeaterHoseStamp.jpg (345 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609650 04/19/14 10:50 PM 04/19/14 10:50 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Correct restored original DR1114429 Idle Stop Solenoid. The stamping is very difficult to view once installed as the stamping faces the intake. 8118110-IdleStopSolenoid.jpg (369 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609651 04/19/14 10:51 PM 04/19/14 10:51 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	B2 8118113-IdleSolenoidBolt.jpg (300 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609652 04/19/14 10:51 PM 04/19/14 10:51 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	That often missing black spring clip is to hold the idle stop solenoid power wire. 8118116-IdleSolenoidWireClip.jpg (311 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609653 04/19/14 10:52 PM 04/19/14 10:52 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Original sate code correct restored 4 Speed Oil sending unit, automatic cars use a smaller more compact style. 8118118-OilPressureSender.jpg (350 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609654 04/19/14 10:53 PM 04/19/14 10:53 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	B5 8118119-OilPressureSenderDate.jpg (277 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609655 04/19/14 10:54 PM 04/19/14 10:54 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	B6 8118121-OilFillCap.jpg (284 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609656 04/19/14 10:55 PM 04/19/14 10:55 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Original temp sender was installed after paint. All are stamped 250 on one side, the opposite side has the two digit date code. These were date coded with a letter for the month and a number for the year, example J0 = September 1970 8118122-TemoSenderHeaterHoseTube.jpg (291 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609657 04/19/14 10:56 PM 04/19/14 10:56 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	B8 8118124-RadiatorHoseStampUpper.jpg (286 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609658 04/19/14 10:57 PM 04/19/14 10:57 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	NOS PS hose, plating was not high quality, this came out of an original sealed box. Date code is the day of the year and the year. 021 = 21st day, 0 = 1970 8118125-PSHoseDateCode.jpg (297 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609659 04/19/14 10:58 PM 04/19/14 10:58 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	The other end has the part# 8118127-PSHosePart#.jpg (566 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609660 04/19/14 10:58 PM 04/19/14 10:58 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Most 1971 340's had the 294 stamped pan. These pans came two ways, with pan rail stiffeners in the corners, and without. My survivor engine didn't have them. Paint coverage was poor on the bottoms of the oil pans, there are typically bare spots near the center of the bottom of the pans simply because the factory painters didn't usually make any effort to paint the underside. My survivor happens to have good coverage on the bottom so I copied it on my clone stroker engine and covered most of it. 8118130-OilPan294.jpg (302 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609661 04/19/14 10:58 PM 04/19/14 10:58 PM
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1971 Gran Coupe super stock Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,019 Washington/Las Vegas	I visited Scott the other day and the motor looks good in the pictures, but up close and personal, the resto job is awesome!! This should answer anyones questions on painting the 340.

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609662 04/19/14 10:59 PM 04/19/14 10:59 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	71 TQ throttle cable nuts were typically silver and the stud was black phosphate, the opposite of many other Mopars of the day. 8118133-ThrotteStudandNut.jpg (327 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609663 04/19/14 11:00 PM 04/19/14 11:00 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	C4 8118136-ThrottleCableClamp.jpg (283 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609664 04/19/14 11:00 PM 04/19/14 11:00 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	C5 8118138-MotorMountPS.jpg (298 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609665 04/19/14 11:01 PM 04/19/14 11:01 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	C6 8118140-ThermoQuad.jpg (369 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609666 04/19/14 11:04 PM 04/19/14 11:04 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Some parts like the various hoses, fuel filter, fuel line clamps, etc. are the best/most accurate reproduction parts available, that said, there are some subtle differences as compared to NOS with most of them.

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609667 04/19/14 11:09 PM 04/19/14 11:09 PM
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Mopucky OP enthusiast M Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 374 New York	SCOTT!!! WOW! This is EXACTLY what I needed to see! You did my Thermoquad two years ago and it was too pretty to put on my old engine so I'm going through it now. I can only hope my engine comes out as nice as yours! Thanks for taking the time to post all of those for me!

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: Mopucky] #1609668 04/19/14 11:37 PM 04/19/14 11:37 PM
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FJR doc mopar F Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 499 Brownstown, PA	That's a sexy engine! I can't wait to get mine assembled and painted. Scott, did you purchase date coded spark plug wires or did you stencil your own? I know I've read that the plastic wire holders were unpainted, but my 1970 Duster 340 wire holders have traces of orange paint on them. Follow my Duster 340 restoration progress on FABO http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=225784 Kevin

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609669 04/19/14 11:48 PM 04/19/14 11:48 PM
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Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,824 Kirkland, Washington	That's really stunning Scott! I am curious, what combination of parts dictated a power steering cooler on an A body? Axle package?

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: FJR doc] #1609670 04/19/14 11:52 PM 04/19/14 11:52 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	The wires you see in those pics are NOS originals (good luck finding any with good date codes!) The reproductions by Lectric Limited are the best I've seen, not 100% exact, but 98% or so which will make most happy. Painted wire looms were the norm on blue painted engines (After April or so of 1971 ), but not on orange engines, yes exceptions happened but based on the larger number of unpainted originals I've seen my money would be on that yours have had some touch up paint overspray at some time in the past and are not original, but as I said, it's possible.

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609671 04/19/14 11:53 PM 04/19/14 11:53 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Quote: That's really stunning Scott! I am curious, what combination of parts dictated a power steering cooler on an A body? Axle package? Axel package cars should have had a cooler (3.55 or 3.91 gears)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609672 04/20/14 12:08 AM 04/20/14 12:08 AM
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FJR doc mopar F Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 499 Brownstown, PA	Do you know who sells Electric Limited wires? I did a Google search and didn't find any info? Follow my Duster 340 restoration progress on FABO http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=225784 Kevin

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: FJR doc] #1609673 04/20/14 12:10 AM 04/20/14 12:10 AM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Layson's carries them as do several other vendors Lectric Limited

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609674 04/20/14 04:15 AM 04/20/14 04:15 AM
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71redcuda pro stock Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,551 Sweden	Scott,really great pic and information.

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: 71redcuda] #1609675 04/20/14 09:40 AM 04/20/14 09:40 AM
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FJR doc mopar F Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 499 Brownstown, PA	Is the engine paint from Frank Badalsan? No hardener or primer? The sheen looks dead on to my block. Follow my Duster 340 restoration progress on FABO http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=225784 Kevin

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: FJR doc] #1609676 04/20/14 12:10 PM 04/20/14 12:10 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Yes that is Frank Badelson's paint, right out of the can (thinned as recommended in his instructions) with no additives.

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609677 04/20/14 01:37 PM 04/20/14 01:37 PM
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Mopucky OP enthusiast M Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 374 New York	Quote: Yes that is Frank Badelson's paint, right out of the can (thinned as recommended in his instructions) with no additives. Scott what did you thin it with? I bought it from Frank and didn't get any instructions. Also Would you suspect that all water pump and timing cover bolts were painted and then backed out and re-attached for A/C components as well?

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: Mopucky] #1609678 04/20/14 02:00 PM 04/20/14 02:00 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	I don't remember the mix off hand but I added some enamel reducer to thin it up a little, it is pretty thick out of the can. I think you could spray it right out of the can with no issues, it just flows a little better with a bit of reducer added. On the A/C bolts, I haven't seen a survivor with air to confirm so I can't say. Bolts that pass through the water pump housing were likely painted and reused IF they were long enough to work as retainers for the A/C components, if not new longer bolts would have been installed with the A/C parts.

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609679 04/20/14 03:45 PM 04/20/14 03:45 PM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,468 So Cal	Quote: ... On the A/C bolts, I haven't seen a survivor with air to confirm so I can't say. Bolts that pass through the water pump housing were likely painted and reused IF they were long enough to work as retainers for the A/C components, if not new longer bolts would have been installed with the A/C parts. Troy just did a fairly unmolested 71 A/C 340 auto N95 car. He may have pics and remember to corroborate other findings.

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: autoxcuda] #1609680 04/20/14 07:20 PM 04/20/14 07:20 PM
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5carguy top fuel 5 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,404 Lee Co. Fla.	Were all the power steering pump pulleys sloted?Was the solid pulley correct too? TIA

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: 5carguy] #1609681 04/20/14 08:03 PM 04/20/14 08:03 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	On A-bodies the slotted stye is all I've seen, B-E body cars I've seen had the solid pulley. I'm not sure how much if any cross over there was.

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609682 04/20/14 08:10 PM 04/20/14 08:10 PM
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5carguy top fuel 5 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,404 Lee Co. Fla.	Great information.Thanks

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: 5carguy] #1609683 04/20/14 08:18 PM 04/20/14 08:18 PM
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Mopucky OP enthusiast M Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 374 New York	Quote: Were all the power steering pump pulleys sloted?Was the solid pulley correct too? TIA My pulley is solid

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609684 04/20/14 09:46 PM 04/20/14 09:46 PM
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mopars_1 master M Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,106 Ridgeland Wi	Quote: On A-bodies the slotted stye is all I've seen, B-E body cars I've seen had the solid pulley. I'm not sure how much if any cross over there was. I dont know if you remember the unmolested 71 340 hemi orange duster I had, but that had a solid pulley.. 1971 Plymouth Duster 340 auto 1937 Plymouth PT50 1969 Dodge Dart Swinger 340 4 speed 2013 Ram laramie 2500 hemi 2008 Harley FLSTSB springer

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: mopars_1] #1609685 04/20/14 11:23 PM 04/20/14 11:23 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	I don't recall that car, are you sure the pump was original? Did it have a cooler? Do you have any pics?

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609686 04/21/14 12:31 PM 04/21/14 12:31 PM
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chrisf master C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,948 British Columbia	thanks for taking the time to post those Scott. saved them all as a reference for my engine.

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: chrisf] #1609687 04/21/14 12:43 PM 04/21/14 12:43 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	No problem, if any of you need more of something specific just ask.

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609688 04/21/14 06:47 PM 04/21/14 06:47 PM
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Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: denfireguy] #1609689 04/21/14 07:29 PM 04/21/14 07:29 PM
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Mopucky OP enthusiast M Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 374 New York	Quote: I think this should go into the Tech Archive. Scott put up a lot of great info here!

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609690 04/22/14 11:42 AM 04/22/14 11:42 AM
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dan9 super stock D Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,023 pa.	Thanks for the great detail pics. I am just curious in this pic did you mean belt or bolt? I was wondering why you would change a bolt for show or street use.

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: dan9] #1609691 04/22/14 11:46 AM 04/22/14 11:46 AM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Belt, just a typo

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609692 04/24/14 10:58 AM 04/24/14 10:58 AM
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FJR doc mopar F Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 499 Brownstown, PA	Scott My 1970 Duster 340 had the same oil pressure sending unit as yours. It is an automatic car. The engine also had a Prestolite dual point distributor that I switched out when I was in high school. I didn;t inspect the sending unit for date codes. I always assumed it was original to the engine. 8122802-PICT2031_fixed.jpg (359 downloads) Follow my Duster 340 restoration progress on FABO http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=225784 Kevin

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: FJR doc] #1609693 04/24/14 01:45 PM 04/24/14 01:45 PM
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5carguy top fuel 5 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,404 Lee Co. Fla.	My oil sending unit has 80 on one flat and G0 on another.What would be the date code?Are these replateable? 8122960-oilsendingunit002.JPG (222 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: 5carguy] #1609694 04/24/14 01:53 PM 04/24/14 01:53 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	The G0 is the date (July 1970). Yes I can replate them (I did that to my example pictured). As far as which style is correct manual vs auto, the auto versions Ive seen were the more compact style. Im not sure why.

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609695 04/25/14 02:35 PM 04/25/14 02:35 PM
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1972CudaV21 master Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,267 Connecticut	Good information...thanks!

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: 1972CudaV21] #1609696 04/27/14 12:09 PM 04/27/14 12:09 PM
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Mopucky OP enthusiast M Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 374 New York	Scott so is the negative cable painted on the engine like a big block?

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: Mopucky] #1609697 04/27/14 02:01 PM 04/27/14 02:01 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Not on an orange painted engine (Windsor Plant) but I've seen evidence that points towards blue engines (Mound Road) having been painted with the cables attached, same goes for plug wire plastic looms

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609698 04/27/14 02:59 PM 04/27/14 02:59 PM
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Mopucky OP enthusiast M Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 374 New York	Quote: Not on an orange painted engine (Windsor Plant) but I've seen evidence that points towards blue engines (Mound Road) having been painted with the cables attached, same goes for plug wire plastic looms Great thanks for the info. I'm having it painted now. I'll try posting pics when it's done.

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: Mopucky] #1609699 04/27/14 08:27 PM 04/27/14 08:27 PM
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5carguy top fuel 5 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,404 Lee Co. Fla.	I was looking at the oil sending unit in your picture and noticed the bell housing bolts had lock washers on them.Any chance of a picture of the bolt heads? My car came with a scattershield. Last edited by 5carguy; 04/27/14 08:28 PM.

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: 5carguy] #1609700 04/27/14 08:39 PM 04/27/14 08:39 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Sure, here are a few, this is an original paint engine, absolutely original bolts, etc. ........And no, it's not an "H" head like all of the supposedly "OE correct" engine fastener kits come with 8126302-Bellbolt1.jpg (320 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609701 04/27/14 08:40 PM 04/27/14 08:40 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Reverse wire clip 8126303-Bellbolt2.jpg (287 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609702 04/27/14 08:40 PM 04/27/14 08:40 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Bell 8126304-Bell3.jpg (283 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609703 04/27/14 08:53 PM 04/27/14 08:53 PM
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5carguy top fuel 5 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,404 Lee Co. Fla.	You are a wealth of information sir.I thank you very much.

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609704 05/02/14 06:17 PM 05/02/14 06:17 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	More pics to follow soon

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609705 05/02/14 08:02 PM 05/02/14 08:02 PM
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5carguy top fuel 5 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,404 Lee Co. Fla.	Quote: More pics to follow soon I can't wait.Bring them on

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: 5carguy] #1609706 05/03/14 11:16 AM 05/03/14 11:16 AM
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FJR doc mopar F Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 499 Brownstown, PA	Scott. The driver side exhaust manifold used the heat shield/ gasket. Am I correct that the factory didn't use a gasket on the passenger side exhaust manifold. Follow my Duster 340 restoration progress on FABO http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=225784 Kevin

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: FJR doc] #1609707 05/03/14 11:17 AM 05/03/14 11:17 AM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	FJR, that is correct

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609708 05/03/14 11:22 AM 05/03/14 11:22 AM
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FJR doc mopar F Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 499 Brownstown, PA	Wow that was fast!! Did you do anything to your exhaust manifolds other than cleaning them up and painting them with engine paint? Follow my Duster 340 restoration progress on FABO http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=225784 Kevin

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: FJR doc] #1609709 05/03/14 11:23 AM 05/03/14 11:23 AM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	This set has been extrude honed for more flow but otherwise no.

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609710 05/03/14 12:12 PM 05/03/14 12:12 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	The following details overlap with some of the items I already posted on other threads but you might find them helpful. Keep in mind that this is a 1971 engine assembled at the Windsor Ontario plant in September of 1970. These details varied with year, time of year, and plant throughout 340 production. This is a very original "survivor engine" only a very short list of items have ever been changed on it. Here is one of the exhaust manifold bolt head markings, there were a couple different ones used on this engine 8132595-ExhaustmanifoldM.jpg (292 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609711 05/03/14 12:14 PM 05/03/14 12:14 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Here is another one. This is the "Dog Bone Bolt" same bolt used for 1970-71 Hemi Carburetor hold down bolts only rather than being black phosphate as on my example, the carb bolts were clear zinc plated. This engine didn't have any of the commonly called "correct" "H" head marking bolts. 8132599-ExhaustManifolddogbone2.jpg (282 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609712 05/03/14 12:15 PM 05/03/14 12:15 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Another look 8132601-ExhaustmanifoldDogbone.jpg (212 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609713 05/03/14 12:17 PM 05/03/14 12:17 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	The 3rd style exhaust manifold bolt 8132604-ExhaustmanifoldM.jpg (257 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609714 05/03/14 12:20 PM 05/03/14 12:20 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	The Engine mount bolts had "RBW" on the heads 8132610-EngineMountRBW.jpg (248 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609715 05/03/14 12:21 PM 05/03/14 12:21 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Intake Bolts have an "E" on most of them 8132613-EIntakeManifold.jpg (243 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609716 05/03/14 12:23 PM 05/03/14 12:23 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Lots of good clues on this original throttle bracket 8132616-Throttlebracket.jpg (311 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609717 05/03/14 12:26 PM 05/03/14 12:26 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	There are still some questions about distributors being installed before or after paint. The clues this engine provides helped me decide which way to go on my engine. The small amount of paint all the way down to the inner lip of the seal area leads me to believe the distributor was not installed but rather, a plug was inserted into the open hole to keep paint out of the engine. Had the distributor been in place the steel base flange would have likely covered and protected this area. *Notice how the previous owner added the "dandelion seed" oil additive 8132618-Distributorhole.jpg (293 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609718 05/03/14 01:22 PM 05/03/14 01:22 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Power Steering Bracket bolts were just plain with 3 hash marks (grade 5) 8132656-PowerSteeringBoltGrade5.jpg (277 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609719 05/03/14 01:23 PM 05/03/14 01:23 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Alternator bolts were a mix, this "F" bolt was used as a water pump bolt when the engine was painted and reused when the alternator was added. 8132659-AlternatorF.jpg (228 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609720 05/03/14 01:25 PM 05/03/14 01:25 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	This is the "Long" upper alternator bolt 8132661-AlternatirRSC.jpg (242 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609721 05/03/14 01:26 PM 05/03/14 01:26 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Alternator, lower bolt is also an "F" bolt 8132662-AlternatorF2.jpg (234 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609722 05/03/14 01:29 PM 05/03/14 01:29 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Negative battery cable was added after paint, bolt has an "E" head marking and was plated a light gold/zinc. That yellow paint you see is the original machining/assembly markings showing through the original thin orange paint. 8132664-BatteryCableE.jpg (245 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609723 05/03/14 01:31 PM 05/03/14 01:31 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Valve cover bolts all has an "E" head marking 8132666-EValvecoverbolt.jpg (223 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609724 05/03/14 01:32 PM 05/03/14 01:32 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Crank pulley details 8132668-CrankPulley.jpg (222 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609725 05/03/14 01:34 PM 05/03/14 01:34 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Power steering bracket bolt head "A" served double duty as a lower water pump attaching pulley and was painted with the engine before the bracket was added. 8132670-PowerSteeringLowerWaterPumpA.jpg (249 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609726 05/03/14 01:36 PM 05/03/14 01:36 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Carb retention bolts were "RSC" bolts and not an "H" head bolt as often promoted by "OE Correct" bolt sellers. 8132673-CarbboldRSC.jpg (325 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609727 05/03/14 01:38 PM 05/03/14 01:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	In case you get into an argument about what color your fan clutch seal should be, this example was red, I've also seen black ones but I couldn't verify what year they came off of. 8132674-FanClutch.jpg (399 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609728 05/05/14 04:25 AM 05/05/14 04:25 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,106 Ridgeland Wi M mopars_1 master
mopars_1 master M Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,106 Ridgeland Wi	Hey Scott, I was reading through this post again and saw you wanted a picture of the power steering pump on my old duster. This car didn't have any performance axle package, just a 3.23 peg leg car. Hard to see, but it is a solid pulley on it.. It was a relatively original car with very few things replaced over the years, water pump being one of the few things. still retained the original heater hoses, spark plug wires, and even plugs.. 8134500-6920104-duster020.jpg (358 downloads) 1971 Plymouth Duster 340 auto 1937 Plymouth PT50 1969 Dodge Dart Swinger 340 4 speed 2013 Ram laramie 2500 hemi 2008 Harley FLSTSB springer

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609729 05/05/14 01:03 PM 05/05/14 01:03 PM
Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 374 New York M Mopucky OP enthusiast
Mopucky OP enthusiast M Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 374 New York	Very good info Scott Thanks for posting! I've referenced this many times now.

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: Mopucky] #1609730 05/16/14 09:55 AM 05/16/14 09:55 AM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 499 Brownstown, PA F FJR doc mopar
FJR doc mopar F Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 499 Brownstown, PA	Scott, I thought I had read that the power steering pump cap was painted black originally. The poor paint job didn't stick very well and usually flaked off like the dipstick. I can't tell in your post if yours is painted black. Last edited by FJR doc; 05/16/14 09:56 AM. Follow my Duster 340 restoration progress on FABO http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=225784 Kevin

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: FJR doc] #1609731 05/16/14 10:20 AM 05/16/14 10:20 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Yes it's painted black, can, cap, cast iron body, cooler, and brackets, all black.

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609732 05/16/14 01:37 PM 05/16/14 01:37 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,784 Ontario, Canada mccannix master
mccannix master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,784 Ontario, Canada	Scott Is the fan stenciled or stamped.. I know what it should be, but I've seen it both ways on two different what were presented as, original 71 A-body 340's. Thanks

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: mccannix] #1609733 05/16/14 01:54 PM 05/16/14 01:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Ive only seen ink stamped on original 71's, however most Ive seen were early engines from the Windsor plant, that might have changed after the move to Mound Road.

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609734 05/30/14 03:24 AM 05/30/14 03:24 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 673 Kennewick, Wa. 7 71vert340 mopar
71vert340 mopar 7 Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 673 Kennewick, Wa.	I was following this post because I knew I'd be pulling the water pump on my 71 Challenger 340 which I've owned since June 1972. I pulled the water pump yesterday and have looked at the bolts Scott has shown and mine has the same bolts. I changed the water pump in May 1974 but reused all the parts except the pump. My car has a build date of Dec 1970 at Hamtramck plant. Here's what I found. My fan clutch has a part number of 3462112 painted on it and has a blue seal. There's a white paint stamp on the fan which says "engine side". The bolts for the water pump also have nylon inserts drilled into the threads to lock the bolt in except for the top center bolt. That's what I've been able to check so far. Terry

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: 71vert340] #1609735 06/01/14 08:00 PM 06/01/14 08:00 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 673 Kennewick, Wa. 7 71vert340 mopar
71vert340 mopar 7 Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 673 Kennewick, Wa.	I'll see if I can add pictures to my post above. Let's see if it works. 8162129-20140530_143754(Medium).jpg (545 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: 71vert340] #1609736 06/01/14 08:01 PM 06/01/14 08:01 PM
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71vert340 mopar 7 Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 673 Kennewick, Wa.	And another pic to above. 8162130-20140530_143901(Medium).jpg (488 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: 71vert340] #1609737 06/01/14 10:03 PM 06/01/14 10:03 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 673 Kennewick, Wa. 7 71vert340 mopar
71vert340 mopar 7 Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 673 Kennewick, Wa.	Since we're looking at small block details, I'll enclose a pic of the water pump I just pulled off. It was installed in 1974. The number on it is 2951571-3-05102. It has the pentastar on it but is different than the rebuilt one. Is it a genuine Mopar part or an aftermarket produced part? I can't remember where I bought it in Tacoma Wa. I asked this on another Mopar site but got no response. Thanks. Terry 8162261-20140529_072236-Copy(Medium).jpg (439 downloads)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: 71vert340] #1609738 06/01/14 10:16 PM 06/01/14 10:16 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Water pump looks to be authentic Mopar, but a later replacement casting number. The fan looks the same as the few I have. Can you make out the digits on the center of the fan clutch (date code - G17A ?).

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609739 06/01/14 10:27 PM 06/01/14 10:27 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 673 Kennewick, Wa. 7 71vert340 mopar
71vert340 mopar 7 Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 673 Kennewick, Wa.	It's either G17A or 617A. Looks closer to a G but hard to tell. It's going back together tomorrow as I want to get it in the TriCities Mopar show next weekend in Richland. I'm glad I took pictures of this while apart. I almost cleaned and painted the Fan/clutch assembly but decided to leave it as is so as not to lose the original stamps. Thanks. Terry.

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609740 06/01/14 10:29 PM 06/01/14 10:29 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 673 Kennewick, Wa. 7 71vert340 mopar
71vert340 mopar 7 Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 673 Kennewick, Wa.	The freshly painted fan on the right is a six vane pump. I was going to install it but when I pulled the pump I installed in 1974, it's an 8 vane. I'll probably send it out to be restored by the company that did the one on the right.

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: 71vert340] #1609741 06/06/14 10:03 AM 06/06/14 10:03 AM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 499 Brownstown, PA F FJR doc mopar
FJR doc mopar F Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 499 Brownstown, PA	Scott Do you have any pictures of your detailed power steering box? I will be sending mine out to Firm Feel for rebuilding and will need to detail it once I get it back. Kevin Follow my Duster 340 restoration progress on FABO http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=225784 Kevin

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