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Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609666 04/19/14 11:04 PM 04/19/14 11:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Some parts like the various hoses, fuel filter, fuel line clamps, etc. are the best/most accurate reproduction parts available, that said, there are some subtle differences as compared to NOS with most of them.

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609667 04/19/14 11:09 PM 04/19/14 11:09 PM
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Mopucky OP enthusiast M Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 374 New York	SCOTT!!! WOW! This is EXACTLY what I needed to see! You did my Thermoquad two years ago and it was too pretty to put on my old engine so I'm going through it now. I can only hope my engine comes out as nice as yours! Thanks for taking the time to post all of those for me!

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: Mopucky] #1609668 04/19/14 11:37 PM 04/19/14 11:37 PM
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FJR doc mopar F Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 499 Brownstown, PA	That's a sexy engine! I can't wait to get mine assembled and painted. Scott, did you purchase date coded spark plug wires or did you stencil your own? I know I've read that the plastic wire holders were unpainted, but my 1970 Duster 340 wire holders have traces of orange paint on them. Follow my Duster 340 restoration progress on FABO http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=225784 Kevin

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609669 04/19/14 11:48 PM 04/19/14 11:48 PM
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Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,831 Kirkland, Washington	That's really stunning Scott! I am curious, what combination of parts dictated a power steering cooler on an A body? Axle package?

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: FJR doc] #1609670 04/19/14 11:52 PM 04/19/14 11:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	The wires you see in those pics are NOS originals (good luck finding any with good date codes!) The reproductions by Lectric Limited are the best I've seen, not 100% exact, but 98% or so which will make most happy. Painted wire looms were the norm on blue painted engines (After April or so of 1971 ), but not on orange engines, yes exceptions happened but based on the larger number of unpainted originals I've seen my money would be on that yours have had some touch up paint overspray at some time in the past and are not original, but as I said, it's possible.

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609671 04/19/14 11:53 PM 04/19/14 11:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Quote: That's really stunning Scott! I am curious, what combination of parts dictated a power steering cooler on an A body? Axle package? Axel package cars should have had a cooler (3.55 or 3.91 gears)

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609672 04/20/14 12:08 AM 04/20/14 12:08 AM
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FJR doc mopar F Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 499 Brownstown, PA	Do you know who sells Electric Limited wires? I did a Google search and didn't find any info? Follow my Duster 340 restoration progress on FABO http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=225784 Kevin

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: FJR doc] #1609673 04/20/14 12:10 AM 04/20/14 12:10 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Layson's carries them as do several other vendors Lectric Limited

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609674 04/20/14 04:15 AM 04/20/14 04:15 AM
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71redcuda pro stock Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,552 Sweden	Scott,really great pic and information.

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: 71redcuda] #1609675 04/20/14 09:40 AM 04/20/14 09:40 AM
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FJR doc mopar F Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 499 Brownstown, PA	Is the engine paint from Frank Badalsan? No hardener or primer? The sheen looks dead on to my block. Follow my Duster 340 restoration progress on FABO http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=225784 Kevin

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: FJR doc] #1609676 04/20/14 12:10 PM 04/20/14 12:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Yes that is Frank Badelson's paint, right out of the can (thinned as recommended in his instructions) with no additives.

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609677 04/20/14 01:37 PM 04/20/14 01:37 PM
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Mopucky OP enthusiast M Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 374 New York	Quote: Yes that is Frank Badelson's paint, right out of the can (thinned as recommended in his instructions) with no additives. Scott what did you thin it with? I bought it from Frank and didn't get any instructions. Also Would you suspect that all water pump and timing cover bolts were painted and then backed out and re-attached for A/C components as well?

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: Mopucky] #1609678 04/20/14 02:00 PM 04/20/14 02:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	I don't remember the mix off hand but I added some enamel reducer to thin it up a little, it is pretty thick out of the can. I think you could spray it right out of the can with no issues, it just flows a little better with a bit of reducer added. On the A/C bolts, I haven't seen a survivor with air to confirm so I can't say. Bolts that pass through the water pump housing were likely painted and reused IF they were long enough to work as retainers for the A/C components, if not new longer bolts would have been installed with the A/C parts.

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609679 04/20/14 03:45 PM 04/20/14 03:45 PM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,468 So Cal	Quote: ... On the A/C bolts, I haven't seen a survivor with air to confirm so I can't say. Bolts that pass through the water pump housing were likely painted and reused IF they were long enough to work as retainers for the A/C components, if not new longer bolts would have been installed with the A/C parts. Troy just did a fairly unmolested 71 A/C 340 auto N95 car. He may have pics and remember to corroborate other findings.

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: autoxcuda] #1609680 04/20/14 07:20 PM 04/20/14 07:20 PM
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5carguy top fuel 5 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,404 Lee Co. Fla.	Were all the power steering pump pulleys sloted?Was the solid pulley correct too? TIA

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: 5carguy] #1609681 04/20/14 08:03 PM 04/20/14 08:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	On A-bodies the slotted stye is all I've seen, B-E body cars I've seen had the solid pulley. I'm not sure how much if any cross over there was.

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609682 04/20/14 08:10 PM 04/20/14 08:10 PM
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5carguy top fuel 5 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,404 Lee Co. Fla.	Great information.Thanks

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: 5carguy] #1609683 04/20/14 08:18 PM 04/20/14 08:18 PM
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Mopucky OP enthusiast M Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 374 New York	Quote: Were all the power steering pump pulleys sloted?Was the solid pulley correct too? TIA My pulley is solid

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1609684 04/20/14 09:46 PM 04/20/14 09:46 PM
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mopars_1 master M Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,106 Ridgeland Wi	Quote: On A-bodies the slotted stye is all I've seen, B-E body cars I've seen had the solid pulley. I'm not sure how much if any cross over there was. I dont know if you remember the unmolested 71 340 hemi orange duster I had, but that had a solid pulley.. 1971 Plymouth Duster 340 auto 1937 Plymouth PT50 1969 Dodge Dart Swinger 340 4 speed 2013 Ram laramie 2500 hemi 2008 Harley FLSTSB springer

Re: 1971 340 Cuda Engine Paint Details [Re: mopars_1] #1609685 04/20/14 11:23 PM 04/20/14 11:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	I don't recall that car, are you sure the pump was original? Did it have a cooler? Do you have any pics?

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