Problem with Fram is they are a cheap filter posing as a good filter. For the way they are constructed they should cost $2. But they cost the same as a Wix or Baldwin filter but are made much much cheaper. Many dont have problems with Frams but like I said- its a $2 that cost $6. Fram and Dorman (Maybe Moog) are iconinc brands that used to make fantastic quality parts that make cheapo crap now.