Yeah I'm starting to get a bit Rapid, in fact I might have to just get a job (it'd be easier). Sport440 do you want in, ($10 entry fee). OK My original statement was that only vac adv and not mechanical adv changes RP & RP is how close the rotor tip is to a cap terminal when it fires & we check this with a timing light in a 1/2" drilled hole in the cap. I've observed this a dozen times when working on peoples' dists and the other day I went out & did it again cuz me & mr P body and Trendz were all three supposed to do it. Trendz seen the light (in his head) without popping the hood. I'm waiting on Mr P body. If YOU do the test (vac capped) & it moves then yes refunds/apologies are definitely due & I am a man of my word. DO the test & report back. Do the test & report back. PLEASE! drill the hole/cap the can/hookup light/rev it up/see what the rotor (RP) does/holler back. does it move or does it stay still, that the only Q at hand. Sport440 get in on this before you do the test. (I missed my steak today)