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Tire Size for 1970 Plymouth GTX #1754468
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Hello! I have a 1970 Plymouth GTx with biased tires on it and their rims are fourteen inches. What size radial tires whill fit on the fornt and back wtihout clearance problems? Thanks.

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Google search on the top of the p[age found this. http://www.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub...&gsc.page=1

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I run 235 fronts and 255 rears with room to spare, but mine are 15s.

As I'm sure you know, in this day and age your choices in a 14 inch tire will be limited. Even 15s are getting harder to find.


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Thank you for giving me the link to the Google seacrh b,ut those are all coming up as fifteen icnch rims. I'm looking for someone who has a Roadrunner or a GTx to be able to give me the answer. Thank you though for trying!

Thank you very much. understand their hard to come by, but if anyone else knows of anything it would be helpful.

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The factory tire size F70-14 is equivalent to 215/70/14, but due to "round" vs. "square" shoulders & sidewall bulge they appear smaller.

The slightly larger G70-14 and/or 225/70/14 tires will fit & are available with limited choices.

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i run 235/60/15 and 275/60/15 on mine. i have tried to get 295's on the rear, isn't going to happen. maybe with rolling the fender and some BFH work on the inner fender wells.

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Do you know how wide a tire in fourteen inches on the front and the back would fit on my GTX? Thanks.

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It's gonna be more what will fit your wheels properly, B-bodies have huge wheelwells and will take a lot of tire, even up front. If you are stuck on using your current rims your choices are very limited but I would suggest 225/70s on all 4 corners or 225/70s up front and 245s in the rear so a little more stance. If you provide your wheel size we might be able to go a little fatter in the rear, if anything is still available.


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14" tires are difficult to get. If there's any way possible I think I would look into something else.
My 70 Satellite is identical to the GTX and has pretty big 17" tires on it. I don't think you can get a 14" tire that is too big for a GTX rear wheel well.
If your hardcore on the 14's there are some old bias tires that are reproduced. Maybe L-60's an the rear with G-60 up front should get the stance right.
They do make a 28"x9" slick in a 14". That's probably as big as you'll find.
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There are NO G60 or L60 14" tires being reproduced.

If you are going for the FACTORY STOCK LOOK with stock 14x5.5" "ROAD" or "RALLYE" wheels (14x6.0" w/hub caps-wheel covers) the 225/70/14 is your best/only option.
245/60/14s are available & will fit the wheel wells, but are SHORT! & should be mounted on wider wheels.

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I would like to know if I can get to 225 70's in 14 inches on the fronnt and would it be possible to get 225 60s on the back? I'm not sure if I want wider tires on the back. If not sure if I'm asking this question properly. I'm not really sure what the dimensions mean. Sorry, if I keep asking the same question over and over. But I don't want to buy the wrong tires.

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225-70 and 225-60/14's will fit no problem.


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I would like to know if I can get to 225 70's in 14 inches on the fronnt and would it be possible to get 225 60s on the back?




Keep in mind though, a 225/70 is 26.5" tall and a 225/60 is only 24.7" tall...might look kind of odd with shorter tires on the back like that?

As well, a 225/60 is going to look kinda small in the rear wheel well of a B body I think at least.

A 245/60 is a little taller at 25.6" and at least has a little more width to help fill things out.

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OzHemi, are these the size tires you recommend or do you recommend a different size? Or do you think those are alright? Thanks.

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Man I know not correct...but 14's look like crap....


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You might check the tires available, I don't see any 245 60 14s on the Summit site. I would think you want your rear tires at least as tall as your fronts with MAYBE a 1/2 inch shorter still looking OK. As for the tire numbers the first number ie 225 is the tread width, the series/second number ie 60 or 70 is the heigth of the side wall which is a percentage of the tread width 60% or 70%, the third number is the size of the rim diameter, 14, 15, 16, etc. This is why the 225 60 is shorter than a 225 70 on the same diameter rim. This a rough explanation but pretty accurate from everything I know.


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BFG does a 245/60-14 T/A and they should be get-able... Cooper did them a Cobra too but haven't checked on them in a while.


As for optimimum size...as mentioned the 14" thing is going to limit you. If going up to 15" is not an option then maybe run the taller size at least all around to keep from looking too small in the wheel wells maybe..

(If you did decide to run 15", then 235/60 up front and 275/60 out back is a nice combo to fill out on a B or E body.)

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14 inch wheels are reeeeeeeaaaaalllllyyy small on a big B body are you doing a 100 point resto on it? If not 15x7 wheels would look much better with at least a 235-60-15 tire. Even 15's are getting hard to find

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14 inch wheels are reeeeeeeaaaaalllllyyy small on a big B body are you doing a 100 point resto on it? If not 15x7 wheels would look much better with at least a 235-60-15 tire. Even 15's are getting hard to find




And handle and ride considerably better. Put the factory wheels and tires in the corner for shows if you want.


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225-70-14 will fit stock 14" factory wheels just fine.
But like mentioned get lost under the car.
And No way would I put a 60 series 14" tire under ,,it looks even worst.

Uping them to a 15" tire is a much better move

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225-70-14 will fit stock 14" factory wheels just fine.
But like mentioned get lost under the car.
And No way would I put a 60 series 14" tire under ,,it looks even worst.

Uping them to a 15" tire is a much better move

IMO


I just put a set of 17x7's and 17x8's on a 68 B-Body for a friend they look really good also

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225-70-14 will fit stock 14" factory wheels just fine.
But like mentioned get lost under the car.
And No way would I put a 60 series 14" tire under ,,it looks even worst.

Uping them to a 15" tire is a much better move

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I just put a set of 17x7's and 17x8's on a 68 B-Body for a friend they look really good also




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Sorry, that I've asked so many questions about tire size. I bought the rally wheels fifteen years ago and I can't afford to buy new rims and tires so that's why I need to stay with the fourteen inch. I'm going to go with this suggstion. 225 70 14's for the fornt and two 245 60's for the rear. Any last suggestions before I order tires? Thanks for the help.

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245/60/14s ARE REAL SHORT
245/60/14s DON'T FIT a 14x5.5" wheel very well.

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Why not sell the ralley wheels and get some 15" rims and tieres?

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Why not sell the ralley wheels and get some 15" rims and tieres?




One good reason is 14 inch ralleys wont bring any money to speak of.


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Wheel Vintiques has 15inch ralleys for about 100 apiece. If you can't afford four new wheels , maybe buy the back ones for now. Small tires on B bodies look awful IMO. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/wvi-56-5812042/overview/ http://www.summitracing.com/parts/wvi-56-5712044/overview/ http://www.summitracing.com/parts/wvi-56-561204/overview/

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Hi forphorty.

Thank you for answering my request for help. I'm going to break down and buy the rear wheels from Summit. What is the best size for the back and what size do you think I should get for the front? And what size tires for the front and rear? It's for a 1970 B-Body. Thanks for the help!

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Hi forphorty.

Thank you for answering my request for help. I'm going to break down and buy the rear wheels from Summit. What is the best size for the back and what size do you think I should get for the front? And what size tires for the front and rear? It's for a 1970 B-Body. Thanks for the help!




I read the whole post and understand your uncertainty. In your last post that I quoted here it sounds like you are now going to buy some 15x7 Rallyes from Summit. Am I assuming correctly?

Here is my old 70 GTX with 235 60-15 front and 275 60-15 rear. In a perfect world I would have used 245 60-15 for the front but got a deal on these.

If 275 60-15 seems too tall for you then go with 245 60-15 front or rear or 255 60-15 rear.
Hope this helps.
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So Ron your saying to get 245- 60-15's for the front? You said to get 275-60-15s for the rear? Are you sure the ones you suggested for the front will work? Futhermore the rim size ...do I get 4 rims that are 15x7? Thanks for your help! Nice Car! Are you anywhere near atco? Karl

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So Ron your saying to get 245- 60-15's for the front? You said to get 275-60-15s for the rear? Are you sure the ones you suggested for the front will work? Futhermore the rim size ...do I get 4 rims that are 15x7? Thanks for your help! Nice Car! Are you anywhere near atco? Karl




Yes 245 60-15 fit without issue, they are the interchange for the factory F 60-15 Bias Ply tire. I prefer 15x7 rims so the trim rings fit correctly and because they are the factory option.
You can put 245 60-15 on rear also to mimic factory size ( F 60-15).
Then I suggested if you thought 275 60-15 was too tall you could also use 255 60-15 on rear.
Here is my other old GTX with Bias Ply GoodYears F 60-15 on 15x7 rims.

I'm less than an hour from Atco.
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So Karl are you sticking to the 14's or did you decide to move up to 15's? IF you go with 15's get 7 inch rims and if you want to rotate them 245-60-15 tires

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I like 275/60s on 15x8 with 4.5 backspace on the back. Looks and fits 68 and up B bodies real well. However, as RJS mentioned, Ive heard that the trim rings don't fit the 15x8 very well, so 15x7 might be a better choice for you.

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If you want bigger rears than front go 275/60s in the back, if you want a square look (stockish) go 245/60s on all 4 corners and you can rotate if you intend to drive it enough to merit that. The 275s will like 8 inch rims much better, a 7 inch rim will work but they balloon a bit and you have to drop the pressure to get them to lay flat and take advantage of all the tread. I have 275s on my AAR on the 7 inch rims, I think I have them at 26 lbs.


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I always run my tires per the door jam sticker anyway and from memory I believe it is 26lbs.
Here is the same car with 15x7 and 245 60-15 front and back.
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Okay, everyone thanks for the help! I'm going to put my order in tomorrow to Summit for 4 15 by 7s and where should I get the trim rings from? Because I would like for them to fit correctly. The tire size I'm going to go with is 245 for thre front and275 for the rear. And thanks for all the help. And if anymore suggestions let me know before tomorrow night because that's when I'm putting the order in.

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I always run my tires per the door jam sticker anyway and from memory I believe it is 26lbs.
Here is the same car with 15x7 and 245 60-15 front and back.
Ron




I agree, but since I rarely running the factory bias plys or the factory size anymore I usually run 32 lbs, front and rear.


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Helpgtxkarl-any pictures of the 70 GTX?
I've always run 235/70-15 front and 275/60-15 rear. The 235/70 15 is almost as tall as the 275/60-15 being 27.4" diameter vs. 28" diameter.

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If you're buying the 15x7.0" wheels from Summit, buy the Wheel Vintiques 15x7 polished trim rings also.

Here's 245/60s & 295/50s on 15x7s (I prefer the 275/60s on the rear)

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Another combo that I had for a different look was 295/50-15 on 8"rims rear, and 235/60-15 on 7" rims in front.

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Another shot of the 295/50-15 on the 8" rim.

Re: Tire Size for 1970 Plymouth GTX [Re: 6bblgt] #1754509
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While there is no perfect cross reference, because tire measurements are left to the manufacturer - the following is the best practical reference to cover all musclecar era sizes.

Tread width is no-where in the tire size spec.

D70-14 = 195/70/14
E70-14 = 205/70/14
F70-14 = 215/70/14
G70-14 = 225/70/14
H70-14 = 235/70/14

E70-15 = 205/70/15
F70-15 = 215/70/15
G70-15 = 225/70/15
H70-15 = 235/70/15

E60-15 = 225/60/15
F60-15 = 235/60/15
G60-15 = 245/60/15
H60-15 = 255/60/15
J60-15 = 265/60/15
L60-15 = 275/60/15

& everyone likes/wants bigger tires

Re: Tire Size for 1970 Plymouth GTX [Re: 6bblgt] #1754510
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Thanks Dan, saved good info


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Re: Tire Size for 1970 Plymouth GTX [Re: mopar346] #1754511
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You've mentioned buying new 15x7 wheels from Summit is your plan. I'm assuming you are going with the "ralley" wheel then? If so, make sure you repaint them the proper silver paint. They come with a grey paint on them and most buyers are lazy and just bolt the center cap on and mount the tire and go. Those wheels look TERRIBLE if left alone and totally standout as fake ralleys.

Re: Tire Size for 1970 Plymouth GTX [Re: hemi70se] #1754512
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Re: Tire Size for 1970 Plymouth GTX [Re: Airgrabber] #1754513
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I cannot put rims and tires on the car because i need to put a lot of money into getting it running. So I have to use the rally wheels I have. I know everybody's says they look small, but the biiger rims are not in the budget. So can I put 215 70 14s on the front and 225 70s on the rear? I just want the back tires to be a bit wider than the front. Sorry, and thanks for the help.

Re: Tire Size for 1970 Plymouth GTX [Re: GTXKARL] #1754514
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Yes, you can.


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Re: Tire Size for 1970 Plymouth GTX [Re: GTXKARL] #1754515
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Quote:

I cannot put rims and tires on the car because i need to put a lot of money into getting it running. So I have to use the rally wheels I have. I know everybody's says they look small, but the biiger rims are not in the budget. So can I put 215 70 14s on the front and 225 70s on the rear? I just want the back tires to be a bit wider than the front. Sorry, and thanks for the help.



14's look small on a big B-body you will most likely be disappointed with the look, If you can't afford 15x7 Rally Road wheels go find some cheap steel wheels and run 15 inch tires that way you haven't spent money on 14 inch tires that you will be unhappy with along with having a hard time selling if you ever decide, Then later when you can afford it buy some 15 inch Rally or Magnum 500's 15's are getting hard to find I imagine finding 14's s even more difficult

Re: Tire Size for 1970 Plymouth GTX [Re: jose jones] #1754516
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My 79 powerwagon had 15X7 steelies stock, I bet there are a lot of them in the bone yards. At least around here anyway.


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Re: Tire Size for 1970 Plymouth GTX [Re: mopar346] #1754517
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It's refreshing to see cars as they were, with all their faults including "small" (by today's standards) tires.

The small difference in width/diameter between 215/70/14 & 225/70/14 won't be noticed, save yourself the hassle of different sized tires front to rear & buy 4 of the same tire.

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Re: Tire Size for 1970 Plymouth GTX [Re: 6bblgt] #1754518
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