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Re: How fast are you guys going with budget 440?
[Re: viperblue72]
#832437
10/19/10 12:09 AM
10/19/10 12:09 AM
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Mooresburg, Tn
'72CudaRacer
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Mooresburg, Tn
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72 cudaracer
That seems pretty impressive!
Thanks.
It's not always how much you spend. Combination is the key. If all the parts are not pulling the rope in the same direction, it WILL disapoint and frustrate you.
Brian
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Re: How fast are you guys going with budget 440?
[Re: DragtimeDodge]
#832438
10/19/10 08:13 AM
10/19/10 08:13 AM
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Marion, South Carolina [><]
an8sec70cuda
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446", 10:1, 93 octane pump gas, mufflers, 3,450 lbs with me. 10.61 @ 125 mph at a track with some altitude.
Wow, such a detailed description of your combo. 
CHIP
'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: How fast are you guys going with budget 440?
[Re: an8sec70cuda]
#832439
10/19/10 08:55 AM
10/19/10 08:55 AM
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Maryland
Dads426
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pro stock
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Maryland
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440, stock crank, heavy TRW pistons, stock rods, 11.0-1 with ported max wedge heads, MP 590 cam, vintage '63 cross ram with 750 eddy's, 727 w/2.77 first gear, 4500 stall, 4.10 Dana, 10.5x29" slicks, 3250(?) lbs, 11.20's. This engine needs more gear and the intake is the limiting factor (it would be faster with a good single 4bbl intake).
2012 422 Allstars NSS Champion
2013 422 Allstars NSS Champion
2014 422 Allstars NSS Champion
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Re: How fast are you guys going with budget 440?
[Re: '72CudaRacer]
#832442
10/19/10 09:59 AM
10/19/10 09:59 AM
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Posts: 998
Clinton Township, Michigan
Dartin
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Clinton Township, Michigan
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72 cudaracer
That seems pretty impressive!
Thanks.
It's not always how much you spend. Combination is the key. If all the parts are not pulling the rope in the same direction, it WILL disapoint and frustrate you.
Brian
I agree completely with this.When HardcoreB and I were in the planning stages I asked sooo many questions trying to make sure everything was going to play nice together. I could not afford to throw parts at it only to find out they didn't work. Pick a goal, figure out what it will take to achieve that goal, and do a lot of diligent hunting for deals on parts. They are out there. Do as much of the work yourself that you can and don't be afraid to ask questions. I'm very fortunate to have a good friend that I can bounce ideas off of and ask stupid questions to without being embarassed. Thank you Sean! 
Randy
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Re: How fast are you guys going with budget 440?
[Re: dOoC]
#832446
10/19/10 08:30 PM
10/19/10 08:30 PM
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Posts: 369
Bowler Wisconsin
Smoparmike
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enthusiast
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Bowler Wisconsin
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30 over 440 ross pistons ly rods stock crank ported 452 heads comp cam 560 lift 265@50. M1 intake holley 1050hp(4150) Ptc converter 456 gears 30x9 slicks 64 Plymouth 3680# best 10.86@123. Bought motor off racing junk $2500.00. Five years ago. Mike
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Re: How fast are you guys going with budget 440?
[Re: Dean_Kuzluzski]
#832448
10/19/10 10:21 PM
10/19/10 10:21 PM
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Posts: 3,897
St. Louis, MO
Blues_Cuda
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St. Louis, MO
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I would like to see some DOLLAR NUMBERS attached to some of these so-called budget-builds !
  
Budget is a relative term.
One mans budget may be another mans dream build.
My 440 combo,
.030 1976 short block .070 indahole $700.00
cast crank
LY rods
516 "doorstop" closed chamber heads $550.00
Street Dom. Intake $135.00
750 3310 vac. sec. $100.00
Milodon oil pan & pick-up $ 60.00
292/509 MP cam $100.00
timing gear & chain $ 45.00
oil pump $ 45.00
$1035.00 Total
All above parts were acquisitioned via swapmeet or internet.
It will go into a 3500 lb B-body with a
3400 Coan converter
fresh 727 w/rev. man. VB
4.10 or 4.30 gear (have both)
MP electronic ignition
and a pair of "old school" Holley Blue pumps with an external regulator and return line.
Hoping to break into the 12's. 
You should be able to hit low 12's easily with that combo. 
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Re: How fast are you guys going with budget 440?
[Re: Dean_Kuzluzski]
#832449
10/19/10 10:46 PM
10/19/10 10:46 PM
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Florida STAYcation
dOoC
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The village idiot's idiot
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Florida STAYcation
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516 "doorstop" closed chamber heads $550.00
DeanO from Berri ....
550$ for a set of 516's ? ... thems must-be some double-trick door-stops !
And I agree .. that combo should be DEEEEP in-da-12's EZ !
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Re: How fast are you guys going with budget 440?
[Re: DragtimeDodge]
#832450
10/20/10 08:23 AM
10/20/10 08:23 AM
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Marion, South Carolina [><]
an8sec70cuda
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I Live Here
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446", 10:1, 93 octane pump gas, mufflers, 3,450 lbs with me. 10.61 @ 125 mph at a track with some altitude.
Wow, such a detailed description of your combo.
The original question was "How fast you guys running with similar combos?" If my combination were very different I wouldn't have replied at all, and where it did differ I pointed it out. I didn't think that needed to be stated here.
Your original description is so vague that at a glance it seems impressive...but you left out the big parts of the combo that dictate whether or not it's a "budget" build like the OP asked for.
CHIP
'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: How fast are you guys going with budget 440?
[Re: an8sec70cuda]
#832451
10/20/10 09:32 AM
10/20/10 09:32 AM
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Swamps of South Jersey.
wildcargo
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Posts: 3,059
Swamps of South Jersey.
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64 Dodge 2840# + 240# for the fat guy, best 10.08 @ 132
motor 440 +.055=451ci
Ross domes 14:1
Eagle rods
steel crank
620MP cam Crane rockers
E heads port matched
Victor intake 950hp
2" A body headers
8 3/4 rear 4.65 gear
ATI 8" 5000 stall
Best 10.08 at 132mph 60' 1.43, 1/8 6.38 at 107
Last edited by wildcargo; 10/20/10 09:42 AM.
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Re: How fast are you guys going with budget 440?
[Re: Blues_Cuda]
#832454
10/30/10 10:37 PM
10/30/10 10:37 PM
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Posts: 3,897
St. Louis, MO
Blues_Cuda
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A real low budget 440...all factory parts except for pistons, valvetrain and accessories.
1975 cast crank 440 w/ stock rods, .030 Ross flat tops with an actual 10.3:1 cr using 1039 Fel-Pro gasket, Ultradyne .588 solid flat tappet cam, ported 906 heads, M-1 intake, AED 850 Holley, Hooker Comp headers, 9.5" PTC converter, 4.10 Dana 60 all in a '70 Barracuda street car. 3" TTI X-pipe exhaust all the way back to the factory style tips.
I have yet to reach the car's full potential due to suspension and carb tuning, but it has run 11.80-11.82 @ 116mph in full street trim on a 90+ degree day with crappy air. (All 4 passes that day were in that range.)
I know the car has 11.60's in it when everything is optimized and decent weather, but still need that timeslip to prove it.  For giggles, I entered the 11.80 timeslip information on this DA calculator and it came back with an 11.57 ET. http://www.dragtimes.com/da-density-altitude-calculator.php Like I said above though...I want that timeslip to prove it.
The car is extremely streetable overall. We drive it all over town without issue.
An update in case anybody is interested...
I got the 11.57 out of the car today. The run before that was an 11.64 @ 118.26 mph.
Good air made the difference. Now I need to get to the suspension tuning. 
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Re: How fast are you guys going with budget 440?
[Re: SILVER67]
#832455
10/31/10 01:12 PM
10/31/10 01:12 PM
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Posts: 1,260
Las Vegas NV
moparmanjames
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pro stock
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Las Vegas NV
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Anymore 3.23 or 3.55 combo's?
1969 Roadrunner, 3700#, 3.23 gear, 91 oct gas
906 heads, big valves, iron rockers
10:1 TRW's, 6 pack rods, 509 cam
Holley Street Dominator intake, Holley 850
Solid 7 blade steel fan, stock alt. & pump
1.75 headers, 3500 stall 727 w shift kit
29.5 x 12.5 Sportsman Pro's
12.45 @ 110 in 4500 density altitude in 100+ degree heat in Las Vegas.
11.759 @ 111 DA corrected et.
I drove it to work and to the track often, that thing was a lot of fun when I put 4.30's, a dominator carb, and a small roller cam in it, ran a best of 11.48 @ 118.
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Re: How fast are you guys going with budget 440?
[Re: moparmanjames]
#832456
10/31/10 05:15 PM
10/31/10 05:15 PM
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Posts: 1,459
oklahoma
forphorty
pro stock
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pro stock
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oklahoma
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Anymore 3.23 or 3.55 combo's?
1969 Roadrunner, 3700#, 3.23 gear, 91 oct gas
906 heads, big valves, iron rockers
10:1 TRW's, 6 pack rods, 509 cam
Holley Street Dominator intake, Holley 850
Solid 7 blade steel fan, stock alt. & pump
1.75 headers, 3500 stall 727 w shift kit
29.5 x 12.5 Sportsman Pro's
12.45 @ 110 in 4500 density altitude in 100+ degree heat in Las Vegas.
11.759 @ 111 DA corrected et.
I drove it to work and to the track often, that thing was a lot of fun when I put 4.30's, a dominator carb, and a small roller cam in it, ran a best of 11.48 @ 118.
Sounds like a nice running car.The cam, carb and gear change picked it up a bunch too. My junk: 68 Satellite glass 6 pak hood. 3.23, .030 over 8.5 , pocket ported 906s, stock valves.Comp 292 hyd, Torker, 750 DP, Hooker 1.85, GERRR 10 in., 28x9 M/Ts. 12.35 at 106 in cool fall Okla weather.
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