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Re: explain 70 440 4bbl oval air cleaners w/air grabber [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #112125
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As stated previously just set the base on a flat surface & if it stands with only the carb throat area touching it's a 383 unit, if the front lip of the baseplate touches it's for a 440...Your lid is definately for a 69...




Sometimes the simple approach just isn't good enough.

Re: explain 70 440 4bbl oval air cleaners w/air grabber.. [Re: nutso suave] #112126
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I would be surprised if you find one under $500. It seems like everyone who has one knows how rare it is. . . . but the scavenger hunt is part of the fun! I have seen a few in MGC and some of the swap meets. They are out there!

Re: explain 70 440 4bbl oval air cleaners w/air grabber.. [Re: SleeperBee] #112127
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I would be surprised if you find one under $500. It seems like everyone who has one knows how rare it is. . . . but the scavenger hunt is part of the fun! I have seen a few in MGC and some of the swap meets. They are out there!




Ben Snobar sells a repop for both the 383 and the 440 air cleaner for a 69. With that in mind I wouldn't pay much more for one unless it was basicly NOS in condition than what the repop sells for .


Re: explain 70 440 4bbl oval air cleaners w/air grabber.. [Re: cataclysm80] #112128
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I've heard this lid decal is for 69 cars. ?????

Tav




Tav , thats an UGLY looking 69 air cleaner assembly .

Re: explain 70 440 4bbl oval air cleaners w/air grabber.. [Re: cataclysm80] #112129
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here's a pic of the hood. You can see the 440 emblem at the bottom right of the pic.

car is a 70 roadrunner 383 4 speed plum crazy without N96 on the fender tag.

hood was on the car when I got it and is copper colored on the bottom. this is a 70 only hood right?

The pictured air cleaner was in the trunk.

the engine in the car was a 400 2 bbl

So, what do I have here?

Tav




Yes thats a 70 ONLY air grabber hood , you have the wrong air cleaner considering what Tony posted about the height difference.

Re: explain 70 440 4bbl oval air cleaners w/air grabber.. [Re: SleeperBee] #112130
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I would be surprised if you find one under $500. It seems like everyone who has one knows how rare it is. . . . but the scavenger hunt is part of the fun! I have seen a few in MGC and some of the swap meets. They are out there!




I saw plenty at The Nats for $400 and UP. any where from ready to slap on or needind striped and redone.
I want one, just can't justify it when I have new 1/4s laying in the garage.

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Re: explain 70 440 4bbl oval air cleaners w/air grabber.. [Re: basketcase] #112131
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Here's mine, someone cut the front to clear a a/c unit .

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Re: explain 70 440 4bbl oval air cleaners w/air grabber [Re: JohnRR] #112132
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Yes thats a 70 ONLY air grabber hood , you have the wrong air cleaner considering what Tony posted about the height difference.




I see what your saying. My 69 383 air cleaner is a full inch taller than the 70 model I need. Can my 69 baseplate be trimmed/made to fit or should I be looking for the correct piece?

If I use the correct decal, is my air cleaner lid correct for a 70?

Tav

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Yes thats a 70 ONLY air grabber hood , you have the wrong air cleaner considering what Tony posted about the height difference.




I see what your saying. My 69 383 air cleaner is a full inch taller than the 70 model I need. Can my 69 baseplate be trimmed/made to fit or should I be looking for the correct piece?

If I use the correct decal, is my air cleaner lid correct for a 70?

Tav




I would find the correct base as the lid you have is INCORRECT for 1970 , 1970 used a ROUND filter with a round lid on an OVAL base , the base has water drains ahead of the filter.

here is what you are looking for , thanks Nick .


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Re: explain 70 440 4bbl oval air cleaners w/air grabber [Re: JohnRR] #112134
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Ive one from my old 71 440 R/T charger with AG hood...are these the same or diff from the 70 440 setup?

Re: explain 70 440 4bbl oval air cleaners w/air grabber [Re: quick77rt ] #112135
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hard to find! also looking for the correct 70 air grabber air cleaner set-up,haven't found one yet good luck

Re: explain 70 440 4bbl oval air cleaners w/air grabber [Re: meepmeep70] #112136
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Thanks for the pic, that helps a lot!

Tav

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Ive one from my old 71 440 R/T charger with AG hood...are these the same or diff from the 70 440 setup?




yes , it's the same

Re: explain 70 440 4bbl oval air cleaners w/air grabber [Re: meepmeep70] #112138
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hard to find! also looking for the correct 70 air grabber air cleaner set-up,haven't found one yet good luck




looks like the 70 up base is NOT repopped, just the lid is .

70 440 4bbl oval baseplate with round lid [Re: JohnRR] #112139
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Here are pics of the baseplate I have. It is for the 1970-72 air grabber setup. Pics show the measurements. None of the measurements match anything posted for the front or rear lips or the carb horn to crossbar.
It appears Tony's measurements would be close and make this a 383 piece. If you have any pics of the 440 baseplate for a `70-`72, please post them for comparison.

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Here are pics of the baseplate I have. It is for the 1970-72 air grabber setup. Pics show the measurements. None of the measurements match anything posted for the front or rear lips or the carb horn to crossbar.
It appears Tony's measurements would be close and make this a 383 piece. If you have any pics of the 440 baseplate for a `70-`72, please post them for comparison.




Lets see a pic of the carb mount surface , maybe it's been modified ?

Re: 70 440 4bbl oval baseplate with round lid [Re: JohnRR] #112141
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Here's a picture of a 440 base with measurement. Note, when placed on a flat surface without the drain hose, the round part that would sit on the carb is suspended slightly above the surface.

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Here's a picture of a 440 base with measurement. Note, when placed on a flat surface without the drain hose, the round part that would sit on the carb is suspended slightly above the surface.




That's a small picture

Re: 70 440 4bbl oval baseplate with round lid [Re: JohnRR] #112143
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Here's a modified 69 base to fit under the hood of my son's 67 Dart with a 440. The air cleaner was originally for a 383. I borrowed a 440 base back when I was working on how it would fit in my old 67 Dart. The 440 base was still slightly too tall so the time and effort AND expense to find one made no sense. I have another 383 air cleaner that I will modify the same way when I put my 440 into my 67 Barracuda convertible.


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