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Re: explain 70 440 4bbl oval air cleaners w/air grabber..
[Re: nutso suave]
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08/29/08 01:54 PM
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The 440 air cleaner base is a bit shorter to allow for proper hood clearance. The 440 model is available as it was used on the GTX and Coronet R/T with fresh air option. These are the most difficult B body fresh air bases to find vs. 383 and the 6 pak model.
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Re: explain 70 440 4bbl oval air cleaners w/air grabber
[Re: nutso suave]
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08/30/08 10:12 AM
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FYI 69 is the only year the single 4 bbls used the oval air filter elemnet , 70 up used the same round air filter element as the 68-69 unsilenced assembly and a modified version of the 68-69 top on an oval base that had drain tubes ahead of the element ...
edit to remove confusion
Last edited by Johnrr; 08/30/08 05:55 PM.
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Re: explain 70 440 4bbl oval air cleaners w/air grabber..
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08/30/08 06:03 PM
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i am wondering what the deal is with 4bbl 'coyote duster' air cleaners for a 440 with an air grabber hood. does anyone have a picture of one? i want to install an air grabber on my hood (which has the vents) but i haven't been able to find the 4bbl air cleaner for this setup...i have seen them for the 383 (tony's sells one i think) but not for the 440. i know that the B/RB height difference won't allow you to use a 383 cleaner. is the baseplate the only difference? any photos of these? has anyone actually seen one? they seem more rare than the 6bbl these days!
i know the 440 4bbl wasn't offered in 69, but i don't have the money or the tuning ability for a six pack setup and i have a brand new 750 holley. if i use an aftermarket intake will the air cleaner be too tall? are there any aluminum intakes that have the same clearance? thanks...
OK now that I have read the whole thing you ask about 70 air cleaner for your 1969 then confuse the issue more by adding a picture of a 69 style base .
To answer your last question , if you use ANYTHING other than a stock intake under a 69 hood with a stock height for the engine used filter assembly you run the risk of the air cleaner coming in contact and dimpling the hood .
You can use the holley but you have to use either a 70 style stock intake , lower thermo choke casting or modify the stock 68/69 choke thermo casting to clear the linakge on the holley .
Some will say that a CH4B will clear but I made that recommedation to NASBackyard and he dimpled his hood .
If you want to use anything but a stock height air cleaner and or a carb spacer you MUST MODIFY the the oval base by shortening the carb horn the appropriate amount. How much that is can only be determined with YOUR engine combo MOUNTED in YOUR CAR , I wouldn't trust ANY recommendation , MEASURE WHAT YOU HAVE .
YMMV
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Second why not contact member Torred4speed as he makes fiberglass airgrabber bases for modified applications...Once it's painted it will look good to all but the most anal viewers & it will work fine..
