Originally Posted By Monte_Smith
I admitted it took a long time and whatever facts are presented there is still more to the story. Yes, he paid up front, but at that time there was a real issue with the block he had and he was contemplating building a big block with PSO heads, because the block he planned to use had bad main web registers and they were not sure if it could be fixed or they could find another block. I know it went to a couple shops and was even discussed for me to look at it. I know whoever had it at the time, called me talking about block and he told me they had not decided what the plan was, I didn't talk to Wayne. Don't remember how long it was before the decision to stick with smallblock was made, nor who let me know that decision, but then parts were ordered and machine work done on intake.
That's incorrect.....I had been contemplating doing a PSO motor BEFORE I bought the small block....once I bought the small block, I was committed and there was no turning back......

The cam was a custom billet blank, with a 4 month lead time. It was ordered, after, not sure how long, he contacted me and said the new block needed a 55mm core instead of the previous 50mm as ordered. I contacted the grinder, relayed this info and then at a later date Wayne called back and said to just stick with the 50mm. I then relayed this information to the cam grinder. I never gave it another thought and they must have put it on the back burner. He called earlier this year asking about cam. I admitted to him that I had forgotten about it, but would call and check on it, so I did. They had forgotten about it as well, but got started and I think 3 months later, we had a cam.
I have no problem with lead times and that's why I was trying to get the ball rolling on all this stuff....Thing is, if you knew that you were including a cam in the 5K, the cam should have been ordered as soon as you got the money (August of 2013)......The heads were at Charlie's for softening in December of 2011 and I ordered a camshaft from him at that same time because for some reason I was under the impression that you'd advised me to get the camshaft from him (I don't remember where I got that idea)........then you told me the cam wasn't something you'd have done, so I told you to go ahead and do me another camshaft (what's another $1,000 when you have 6 digits in pile of bolts?)......When I sent the 5K, I didn't know if that included covering the new camshaft or not.......I just sent 5K like you told me to.......

As Wayne himself stated, he told me he wasn't in a hurry and I likely took advantage of that situation as I was extremely busy and had lots of other issues to deal with in the last year or so. I knew he didn't have his motor, nor was anywhere near ready to race, so didn't get it back to the front of the line soon enough, which was entirely my fault and there is no excuse.That's what I was looking for................

On the matter of the invoice, I told him the truth........that it had been so long, that I could NOT remember what all was involved in the price given. Originally that price possibly included some motor parts, but I simply didn't remember and neither did he and I was working on it.That paragraph proves that the way you run your business needs a major rethink........

I had a parts list on my computer that I had been figuring out and when he posted here, I sent what I had to him and it had on it, what I remembered, what he had paid, and what the work had cost. There was over a $1000 dollar difference and I plainly told him that I could not remember where it was. He reminded me that I had put the injectors in his manifold and he had not supplied them. So that shaved more off the total but there was still about $500 missing that I had no idea what it was for. So as I told him here, all he has to do is let me know how much he thinks I owe him and he will get it. I think originally I was supposed to get him some lifters, but he got them elsewhere, because it appears we BOTH forgot what the original plan was. I admittedly did not write it down and it appears he did not either, because even he forgot that a cam was part of the deal and he bought one from Charlie Buck, who did the heads.

So bottom line............poor time management on my side.......poor record keeping on both sides The only record keeping that I needed was to know how much the check was for because I have no idea what you charge for parts and services other than you'd told me it was $500 to flow one stage......it's your job to keep track of what you do for customers and invoice them accordingly.......

This has been a long and drawn out affair, as there have been numerous setbacks on his engine, for various reasons, I don't think any of which were in his control and knowing this, I did not make enough of an effort to get his intake back to the front, for which I have apologized to him numerous times. And as I said, I simply did NOT remember what the original deal was for, but I was trying to figure it out, but obviously not figuring it out fast enough. I didn't just whip up that bill and send it to him because I saw it here. I had been trying to work it out and jog my memory, by looking at things I had ordered and who they were for a and at this point, I STILL don't recall what the original deal was and he doesn't either


Thing is, when his first response to me on this thread was this;
"Was going to ignore you, but you just won't let it go and seem to want to do it publicly, so how about the other side of the story.....As usual, you would be thinking WRONG....".....that was a major slap in the face.....and the gloves came off.......I don't lie and and I'm not wrong........Instead of writing that and trying to make me look stupid, all he had to do was say something like; "Yeah, I apologize, Wayne....I know I've taken too long but I'll get you handled by the weekend"......and I'd have dropped it right then........

I honestly didn't want to do this......but I got forced into it......maybe Monte will rethink how he handles work load and customers.......Like most everyone here, I enjoy his tech on the forums, but I'm not a fool and I won't take being treated like one......



Originally Posted By 72Swinger
Failure to Communicate. Seen it many times.
Yep, and I tried and tried....



Originally Posted By Quicktree
Monte I really think you missed the boat on this one. I don't know all the dynamics but I do know Big Squeeze is more than qualified to help you and become a partner so both of you could make some money have a good product and take care of your customers. it wont be long before you can't get customers at this pace. one unhappy customer tells everyone and the word soon spreads, just like this thread. If I were you I would go over and have a heart to heart talk make a contract between the two of you and join sides..
That's one of the best things I've ever seen you post, Tony!!! LOL laugh2 I was actually thinking of moving farther East so I could be closer to more headsup racing action and I actually hit Monte up about that because I knew he needed the help, but he was too afraid I'd steal all his secrets..... twocents




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