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Clutch Pedal Sticking and Noise #808216 09/19/10 05:49 PM 09/19/10 05:49 PM
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Anonymous OP Unregistered A	Need a little help. I'll try to describe this the best I can. Here's the clutch I have: Centerforce 10.95, 18 spline dual friction Disc/PP. Car sits for a day. When I get in the car, depress the clutch pedal all the way to the floor, and start the car, the pedal does not want to return. In addition, when I get past the 1/3 point in pressing the clutch pedal down, I hear a loud squeeling noise, and the pedal seems stiff. I tracked the noise back to the clutch fingers (not sure what else to call them). Everything else (linkage, zbar, etc) is lined up, lubed, and moving freely. Now, when I drive the car and press the clutch in to shift, it returns fine. After driving around town with the car well warmed up, the clutch moves fine, doesn't stick when sitting, and the noise almost goes away. Thoughts/suggestions? Thanks!!!

Re: Clutch Pedal Sticking and Noise [Re: ] #808217 09/19/10 06:44 PM 09/19/10 06:44 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 7,063 Indiana maxie master
maxie master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 7,063 Indiana	when you drop the hammer on it, does the pedal get sucked away from your foot?

Re: Clutch Pedal Sticking and Noise [Re: ] #808218 09/19/10 06:46 PM 09/19/10 06:46 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,831 Kirkland, Washington Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts
Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,831 Kirkland, Washington	First off--it sounds like a classic case of a diaphram clutch WITH an overcenter spring still installed.....Right? You need to remove the overcenter spring.

Re: Clutch Pedal Sticking and Noise [Re: maxie] #808219 09/19/10 09:13 PM 09/19/10 09:13 PM
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Anonymous OP Unregistered A	Quote: when you drop the hammer on it, does the pedal get sucked away from your foot? I'm fairly certain no, but something I can test just to be sure.

Re: Clutch Pedal Sticking and Noise [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #808220 09/19/10 09:15 PM 09/19/10 09:15 PM
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Anonymous OP Unregistered A	Quote: First off--it sounds like a classic case of a diaphram clutch WITH an overcenter spring still installed.....Right? You need to remove the overcenter spring. I never removed a spring from it, so yes. What's it for? How would I go about removing it? And are there any negative impacts of doing so?

Re: Clutch Pedal Sticking and Noise [Re: ] #808221 09/19/10 09:17 PM 09/19/10 09:17 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,218 Someplace you aren't S SomeCarGuy I Live Here
SomeCarGuy I Live Here S Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,218 Someplace you aren't	You need to get it out of there. There are a few methods, everythign from stickign washers in the streched spring to cutting it. Cutting it is a dangerous deal. Doable but dangerous. I want my fair share

Re: Clutch Pedal Sticking and Noise [Re: ] #808222 09/19/10 09:19 PM 09/19/10 09:19 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,337 the house on the left. C cogen80 master
cogen80 master C Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,337 the house on the left.	Quote: Quote: First off--it sounds like a classic case of a diaphram clutch WITH an overcenter spring still installed.....Right? You need to remove the overcenter spring. I never removed a spring from it, so yes. What's it for? How would I go about removing it? And are there any negative impacts of doing so? its a pain to get out but doable with the car all together, i thought the centerforce directions said you may have to pull the spring if it does exactly what your describing.

Re: Clutch Pedal Sticking and Noise [Re: cogen80] #808223 09/20/10 10:27 AM 09/20/10 10:27 AM
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 236 Maryland C cudaboone enthusiast
cudaboone enthusiast C Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 236 Maryland	Yep, you guys are right. I put a center force in my 72 cuda and had the same problem. Can't remember exactly how i got the spring out, but did it myself and don't remember it being a really big deal. Put a little spring that i got from the hardware store from the clutch pedal to the dash support. Worked great.

Re: Clutch Pedal Sticking and Noise [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #808224 09/20/10 02:40 PM 09/20/10 02:40 PM
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Anonymous OP Unregistered A	So, removing the center spring will prevent the clutch from sticking to the floor. What about the stiffness and noise? Hard to describe....squeeking, rubbing noise when I depress the clutch. Coming from the clutch fingers. Linkage, zbar, and everything else is moving freely and lined up correctly.

Re: Clutch Pedal Sticking and Noise [Re: ] #808225 09/20/10 03:45 PM 09/20/10 03:45 PM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 574 Northern New Jersey EV2AAR mopar
EV2AAR mopar Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 574 Northern New Jersey	Did you powdercoat the clutch ? J/K

Re: Clutch Pedal Sticking and Noise [Re: EV2AAR] #808226 09/20/10 04:41 PM 09/20/10 04:41 PM
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Anonymous OP Unregistered A	Quote: Did you powdercoat the clutch ? J/K Maybe the squeeking noise is when the kids are underneath the car when I yell "SHIFT"

Re: Clutch Pedal Sticking and Noise [Re: ] #808227 09/20/10 07:54 PM 09/20/10 07:54 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 18,157 Mass DAYCLONA I Live Here
DAYCLONA I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 18,157 Mass	Get rid of the overcenter spring located over the clutch pedal under the dash, that part of your problem, remove it by sticking a bunch of washer between the coil's, or flat tip screwdrivers, then just push down on the pedal and remove the extended spring by hand, the washers/screwdrivers will keep the spring extended in shape,....see what you have after that regarding pedal/clutch noise/feel

Re: Clutch Pedal Sticking and Noise [Re: DAYCLONA] #808228 09/20/10 07:59 PM 09/20/10 07:59 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,468 So Cal autoxcuda Too Many Posts
autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,468 So Cal	Quote: Get rid of the overcenter spring located over the clutch pedal under the dash, that part of your problem, remove it by sticking a bunch of washer between the coil's, or flat tip screwdrivers, then just push down on the pedal and remove the extended spring by hand, the washers/screwdrivers will keep the spring extended in shape,....see what you have after that regarding pedal/clutch noise/feel Neat trick! Mental note taken.

Re: Clutch Pedal Sticking and Noise [Re: DAYCLONA] #808229 09/20/10 10:05 PM 09/20/10 10:05 PM
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Anonymous OP Unregistered A	Sounds like a plan. Thanks for the advice everyone.

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