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What build would make the most RELIABLE 1000hp SB? #579321
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Say cost is no object, what would be a 1000HP build that would give the most RELIABLE SB motor, w/EFI, no NOS, streetable, non drag, Pump gas or E-85, ease to sort out, and lighter being better. Reliable being the most important criteria.

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Re: What build would make the most RELIABLE 1000hp SB? [Re: jcc] #579322
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R5 P7 with a turbo, intercooled and EFI with E85


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Re: What build would make the most RELIABLE 1000hp SB? [Re: jcc] #579323
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Give either Scott Koffel or RyanJ a call Shadydell.. Actually, get ahold of MLaboda. He has a very nice Ray Barton Pro Stock truck engine for sale. All fresh from RyanJ. Should be near that 1k.. Very nice engine.
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Re: What build would make the most RELIABLE 1000hp SB? #579325
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you already know the answer, Turbo!

Re: What build would make the most RELIABLE 1000hp SB? [Re: Dos Snails] #579326
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Turbo, and or Turbo/s!!!


11.48 @ 120 with a 1.80 60' 318, stock 1.88 heads, stock 904, Pump Gas, 13 lbs of boost.

9.94 @ 134, 318 on pump gas, 14 lbs w/ Eddies, transbrake 727, 3600 lbs, 3.54 gear and 28's.
Re: What build would make the most RELIABLE 1000hp SB? [Re: topfueldart] #579327
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Just in case anybody didn't already mention it, I'd say go turbos...

Re: What build would make the most RELIABLE 1000hp SB? [Re: jcc] #579328
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Number 1 thing would be a after market block with
siamese cylinders, nice alum heads, forged or billet
crank, H-beam rods, roller cam, EFI then your choice
of turbo/turbos.... JMO

Re: What build would make the most RELIABLE 1000hp SB? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #579329
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Number 1 thing would be a after market block with
siamese cylinders, nice alum heads, forged or billet
crank, H-beam rods, roller cam, EFI then your choice
of turbo/turbos.... JMO





Now that's what I looking for, current build is already a Tall Alum 360 Alum mopar Block, which forces a dry sump, W-8 ported heads, then what are the most reliable endurance valves for turbo builds, max bore up to 4.180", need to decide stroke/cubes (low end is not critical, throttle response is more so), forged crank or is billet better/needed choice, I would rather limit rpms to keep reliability, rod size 2.1,2.0,1.88?, Ti rods are a consideration, roller is a definite, turbo is of course most obvious choice, but single vs dual turbos, intercooler just makes sense, but thought just maybe a Procharger type set-up might be more reliable to set-up and maintain for someone like me that knows just enough to get in trouble. As tough as it might be to finally put this package together, I am not in a position to be able to afford scattering it, hence reliability is of key importatnce in the chase for 1000 hp.


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Re: What build would make the most RELIABLE 1000hp SB? [Re: jcc] #579330
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I'd go with a Procharger.

Re: What build would make the most RELIABLE 1000hp SB? [Re: jcc] #579331
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Now that's what I looking for, current build is already a Tall Alum 360 Alum mopar Block, which forces a dry sump, W-8 ported heads, then what are the most reliable endurance valves for turbo builds, max bore up to 4.180", need to decide stroke/cubes (low end is not critical, throttle response is more so), forged crank or is billet better/needed choice, I would rather limit rpms to keep reliability, rod size 2.1,2.0,1.88?, Ti rods are a consideration, roller is a definite, turbo is of course most obvious choice, but single vs dual turbos, intercooler just makes sense, but thought just maybe a Procharger type set-up might be more reliable to set-up and maintain for someone like me that knows just enough to get in trouble. As tough as it might be to finally put this package together, I am not in a position to be able to afford scattering it, hence reliability is of key importatnce in the chase for 1000 hp.




I wouldnt go the Procharger route it uses HP to make
HP where the turbo is basically free... valves...
a good stainless valve is plenty... no need for a
Ti rod... your not spinning it hard.... a chevy rod
size is fine.
It sounds like you would need to get the turbo setup
tuned for you but there are plenty of shops that can
put it on a dyno and take care of that for you

Re: What build would make the most RELIABLE 1000hp SB? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #579332
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Now that's what I looking for, current build is already a Tall Alum 360 Alum mopar Block, which forces a dry sump, W-8 ported heads, then what are the most reliable endurance valves for turbo builds, max bore up to 4.180", need to decide stroke/cubes (low end is not critical, throttle response is more so), forged crank or is billet better/needed choice, I would rather limit rpms to keep reliability, rod size 2.1,2.0,1.88?, Ti rods are a consideration, roller is a definite, turbo is of course most obvious choice, but single vs dual turbos, intercooler just makes sense, but thought just maybe a Procharger type set-up might be more reliable to set-up and maintain for someone like me that knows just enough to get in trouble. As tough as it might be to finally put this package together, I am not in a position to be able to afford scattering it, hence reliability is of key importatnce in the chase for 1000 hp.




I wouldnt go the Procharger route it uses HP to make
HP where the turbo is basically free... valves...
a good stainless valve is plenty... no need for a
Ti rod... your not spinning it hard.... a chevy rod
size is fine.
It sounds like you would need to get the turbo setup
tuned for you but there are plenty of shops that can
put it on a dyno and take care of that for you



Free....

Re: What build would make the most RELIABLE 1000hp SB? [Re: emarine01] #579333
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Now that's what I looking for, current build is already a Tall Alum 360 Alum mopar Block, which forces a dry sump, W-8 ported heads, then what are the most reliable endurance valves for turbo builds, max bore up to 4.180", need to decide stroke/cubes (low end is not critical, throttle response is more so), forged crank or is billet better/needed choice, I would rather limit rpms to keep reliability, rod size 2.1,2.0,1.88?, Ti rods are a consideration, roller is a definite, turbo is of course most obvious choice, but single vs dual turbos, intercooler just makes sense, but thought just maybe a Procharger type set-up might be more reliable to set-up and maintain for someone like me that knows just enough to get in trouble. As tough as it might be to finally put this package together, I am not in a position to be able to afford scattering it, hence reliability is of key importatnce in the chase for 1000 hp.




I wouldnt go the Procharger route it uses HP to make
HP where the turbo is basically free... valves...
a good stainless valve is plenty... no need for a
Ti rod... your not spinning it hard.... a chevy rod
size is fine.
It sounds like you would need to get the turbo setup
tuned for you but there are plenty of shops that can
put it on a dyno and take care of that for you



Free....




Notice that word "basically"

Re: What build would make the most RELIABLE 1000hp SB? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #579334
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Got ya , Hey I was only thinkin

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Got ya , Hey I was only thinkin




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Re: What build would make the most RELIABLE 1000hp SB? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #579336
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Your looking for Mike Zacardi's Duster - built by SDCE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk0FAlRznic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahMgOG4Bpcw

He had a prochager and just went to a twin turbo setup - both F/I

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Re: What build would make the most RELIABLE 1000hp SB? #579338
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Im fixing to turbo my SB and the turbo set up Im getting will support 900-1000 hp. Course, my stock block won't handle that so I am shooting for 650 hp for now. This is with blow through, pump gas, Eddy heads, .224 duration hydrualic roller, Air to Air intercooler and I believe a 68 mm turbo.

My primary concern to the turbo builder was to make sure it is 100% streetable. He even told me to gear down to 3.54 with the 30" tires!

Re: What build would make the most RELIABLE 1000hp SB? [Re: jcc] #579339
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Buy a clean, used W8 or P5 comp eliminator motor and put a longer arm in it.


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Re: What build would make the most RELIABLE 1000hp SB? [Re: Mike Swann] #579340
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All things equal R-3 Block .060 over 340 bore 3.58 crank single plane intake 850 carb does the Turbo option always trump the Procharger?

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