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Re: Brewer Heads
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12/15/09 12:12 AM
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hemiiroc
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Fred made AMC heads years before he made the Mopar heads.
Nope --the first set actually run were Mopar castings
The core boxes were at a foundry in Texas and were destroyed several years ago 
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Re: Brewer Heads
[Re: hemiiroc]
#532643
12/15/09 11:02 AM
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gregsdart
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Daytona5812 ,Vern, runs a set on a 604 with duel dominators, goes 7.80s or better last I heard in a 2500 lb Daytona. Motor dynoed over 1100 hp at Lance Lines dyno(Jasons brother).
8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky
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Re: Brewer Heads
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12/15/09 11:09 AM
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Just found the dyno post;
As most of you know, my last dyno session ended in disaster. Well, it's been a long road back,{ 1 year}, & I finally got the new motor done. Last motor was a 572. This time I went to a 606 cu in.
Went to the dyno today, & things turned out alot better. I'm so happy I could scream. I was hoping for 1020-1050 hp.
What I got was 1124 hp at 7200 & 902 tq at 5700.
Can't wait till summer. Vern!!!
Also found his last run stats; 1800DA, headwind, 175 mph at 7.86
8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky
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Re: Brewer Heads
[Re: B1Fish540]
#532651
12/28/10 04:08 PM
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Oklahoma
68dart500
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http://predatorheads.com/
I believe this Company has the old Fred Brewer head now.
Predators have splayed valves, Brewers do not.
My bad your right this are not the brewer heads
Talk to one of Freds friend today, He thought that Fred had one set left and a place in OKC has a set for sale,that never been run.
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Re: Brewer Heads
[Re: 68dart500]
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12/28/10 05:46 PM
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B1Fish540
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http://predatorheads.com/
I believe this Company has the old Fred Brewer head now.
Predators have splayed valves, Brewers do not.
My bad your right this are not the brewer heads
Talk to one of Freds friend today, He thought that Fred had one set left and a place in OKC has a set for sale,that never been run.
I always wondered why nobody bought Freds stuff and brought them back...great head! Ony the B1-PSO comes close but the Brewer is still best.
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Re: Brewer Heads
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12/30/10 12:22 AM
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Sherwood park, Alberta.
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I don't see why some one would buy a ultra rare exclusive head that has known casting problems and little tech support ? The Brewer head flows slightly better than the old tried and true workhorse original ported B1. The B1 and the Brewer are close to 20 year old cylinder head technology. Here is the B1 next to the Predator head.  The predator next to a RPM head 
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Re: Brewer Heads
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#532656
12/30/10 10:06 AM
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$$$ would affect most peoples buying decision. No doubt the predator is a better head but it also has the price tag to go along with it.  Deff. out of my budget and most people I know.
One day I will have something cool here.
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Re: Brewer Heads
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12/30/10 11:46 AM
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B1Fish540
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I don't see why some one would buy a ultra rare exclusive head that has known casting problems and little tech support ? The Brewer head flows slightly better than the old tried and true workhorse original ported B1.
The B1 and the Brewer are close to 20 year old cylinder head technology.
yep, the Predator is the best head currently available for the BB mopar unless you include the Stage V Millenium head, which I believe flows better. But compare those to a Big Chief head or a Thor head and the Predator pails, its the best we have...but it's still just an "entry level" head compared to the Brand X offerings.
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Re: Brewer Heads
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12/30/10 04:34 PM
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Salt Lake City
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I don't see why some one would buy a ultra rare exclusive head that has known casting problems and little tech support ? The Brewer head flows slightly better than the old tried and true workhorse original ported B1.
The B1 and the Brewer are close to 20 year old cylinder head technology.
yep, the Predator is the best head currently available for the BB mopar unless you include the Stage V Millenium head, which I believe flows better. But compare those to a Big Chief head or a Thor head and the Predator pails, its the best we have...but it's still just an "entry level" head compared to the Brand X offerings.
Entry level, really? I'm not thinking there's anything entry level about the Predator or the PSO. What do the Big Chief and Thor flow, or more importantly, what power do they make? I see the Chevy guys running blowers and NOS just to make a 7.20 bump in T/D too, so I'm not sure what you are basing your comments on.
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Re: Brewer Heads
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12/30/10 06:09 PM
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B1Fish540
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I don't see why some one would buy a ultra rare exclusive head that has known casting problems and little tech support ? The Brewer head flows slightly better than the old tried and true workhorse original ported B1.
The B1 and the Brewer are close to 20 year old cylinder head technology.
yep, the Predator is the best head currently available for the BB mopar unless you include the Stage V Millenium head, which I believe flows better. But compare those to a Big Chief head or a Thor head and the Predator pails, its the best we have...but it's still just an "entry level" head compared to the Brand X offerings.
Entry level, really? I'm not thinking there's anything entry level about the Predator or the PSO. What do the Big Chief and Thor flow, or more importantly, what power do they make? I see the Chevy guys running blowers and NOS just to make a 7.20 bump in T/D too, so I'm not sure what you are basing your comments on.
Its not that this is'nt a great head, it is, but it will only get you in the show, at best. This is only because of the small 4.8 bore space mopar block limitation. Both the Thor and best Big Chief can use a 2.5+ intake valve...translates into about a 30/40 CFM advantage. The same applies with this Brodix head:
http://www.brodix.com/heads/pb2005.html
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What rocker choices do we have? Anyone know any specifics on valve locations/angles?
