4 Speed Tranny Question.
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I’m looking at a 74 Cuda for sale and upon inspection and driving noticed the pistol grip shifter wasn’t quite centered in the hump hole and console. Crawled under the car and confirmed the motor to be #s matching but the tranny case is stamped 68. However it has a dual shifter mount tail shaft like a 70 and up would have. Appears like a 70-up tail shaft has been installed on a 68. But I would have thought if the original one was installed that would have had the correct shifter bracket. Any ideas on this one? When driving, the shifter is so far off center to the rear it hits the console in 2nd and 4th gears.
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Re: 4 Speed Tranny Question.
[Re: TimS]
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sounds like it has the wrong mounting plate/bracket. There are different types that shift the shifter foreword or back
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Re: 4 Speed Tranny Question.
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sounds like it has the wrong mounting plate/bracket. There are different types that shift the shifter foreword or back It sounds like they might have an old "Super Shifter" bracket on it and it moved the shifter up and back not for use with console cars. Is it made from steel or aluminum ?
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Re: 4 Speed Tranny Question.
[Re: cudaman1969]
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Didn’t they make a different shifter for console and non consoles like other years. My 70 Challenger had non-console was straight up out of the hump offset to driver. I always thought the E body shifters were the same. B body is different. Console shifters bend toward the driver on a B.
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Re: 4 Speed Tranny Question.
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The housing would be the same other than bearing sizes potentially. So that is not the issue. Was it an original 4 speed car? As others have said, mount. Yes it is an original 4 speed car. At some point in its life something happened to the #s tranny.
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Re: 4 Speed Tranny Question.
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sounds like it has the wrong mounting plate/bracket. There are different types that shift the shifter foreword or back It sounds like they might have an old "Super Shifter" bracket on it and it moved the shifter up and back not for use with console cars. Is it made from steel or aluminum ? Not sure what the bracket is made of. I'll have to check that out. What are the original brackets made of?
1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor 1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic 1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow 1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue 2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black 2014 Dodge Charger RT Max AWD 5.7 Hemi AT 305 Billet Silver
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Re: 4 Speed Tranny Question.
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Factory shifter mounting brackets of that era are cast aluminum, some aftermarket and later factory brackets are stamped steel.
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Re: 4 Speed Tranny Question.
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Super Shifter mount for E-body This is the one I use and it puts the shifter right against your leg and high next to your hand. Gus
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Re: 4 Speed Tranny Question.
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Factory shifter mounting brackets of that era are cast aluminum, some aftermarket and later factory brackets are stamped steel. Looks like the top set. Didn't get close enough to see which one. Not the Super Shifter.
1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor 1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic 1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow 1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue 2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black 2014 Dodge Charger RT Max AWD 5.7 Hemi AT 305 Billet Silver
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