Re: front spring eye bushing inner sleeve length
[Re: burdar]
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10/06/21 02:26 PM
10/06/21 02:26 PM
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The bushing is only for the leaf spring twisting action. The sleeve can touch the hangers... no problems or concerns.
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Re: front spring eye bushing inner sleeve length
[Re: NITROUSN]
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10/08/21 06:53 PM
10/08/21 06:53 PM
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Even on the original there was a sleeve . The rubber touching the sides of the brackets is irrelevant and had no function. As long as the bushing it tight in the eye and the inner bushing is squeezed tight within the mount you are fine. IMO regarding your last two comments, you are making two contradictory statements, the last one being mostly the correct one, just to be clear for others. All to mean, the leaf should not contact the mounting bracket, tightly squeezed rubber bushing prevents that contact in all but the most brutal impacts.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: front spring eye bushing inner sleeve length
[Re: jcc]
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10/13/21 10:17 PM
10/13/21 10:17 PM
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Even on the original there was a sleeve . The rubber touching the sides of the brackets is irrelevant and had no function. As long as the bushing it tight in the eye and the inner bushing is squeezed tight within the mount you are fine. IMO regarding your last two comments, you are making two contradictory statements, the last one being mostly the correct one, just to be clear for others. All to mean, the leaf should not contact the mounting bracket, tightly squeezed rubber bushing prevents that contact in all but the most brutal impacts. No I am not. Look at his pictures. He has a new style bushing that does not have the excess side rubber like the factory one. He was worried about not having the excess side rubber thinking it was a problem. Please do not start your BS with me.
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Re: front spring eye bushing inner sleeve length
[Re: NITROUSN]
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10/15/21 09:45 PM
10/15/21 09:45 PM
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Even on the original there was a sleeve . The rubber touching the sides of the brackets is irrelevant and had no function. As long as the bushing it tight in the eye and the inner bushing is squeezed tight within the mount you are fine. IMO regarding your last two comments, you are making two contradictory statements, the last one being mostly the correct one, just to be clear for others. All to mean, the leaf should not contact the mounting bracket, tightly squeezed rubber bushing prevents that contact in all but the most brutal impacts. No I am not. Look at his pictures. He has a new style bushing that does not have the excess side rubber like the factory one. He was worried about not having the excess side rubber thinking it was a problem. Please do not start your BS with me. Speaking of BS, you never explained why his "thinking it was a problem" is not a problem. I wonder why?
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: front spring eye bushing inner sleeve length
[Re: burdar]
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10/15/21 10:44 PM
10/15/21 10:44 PM
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I have always been under the impression that a conventional sleeved rubber bushing (steel inner sleeve/outer sleeve) the sleeves were held stationary and undistorted with the car at ride height. When the suspension moves, the rubber distorts to allow movement but the two sleeves are stationary. At east that is the impression I have always been under. shruggy That was my thought as well. That's why I wondered about how to tighten the front spring eye bolts when they can't be accessed with the springs mounted. Worst case scenario is I install the springs with the eye bolt loose. Once ride height it established, mark the location of the spring and front hanger so I have a reference point to hold them at while I tighten the bolt off the car.
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Re: front spring eye bushing inner sleeve length
[Re: burdar]
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10/16/21 11:11 AM
10/16/21 11:11 AM
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My thougth was that since there is a 1/16" gap between the rubber and the hanger on each side... That if cornering hard, the rubber could flex and the spring eye could move from side to side. If the rubber was touching the sides, there could still be side to side movement in the spring eye but it would be greatly reduced. It sound like this movement isn't enough to worry about. I had thought about adding a thin stainless washer on each side of the spring eye to take up the gap. The center hole in the washers would be large enough that the center sleeve would pass through them and still clamp tight to the hanger. Probably just over thinking it. IMO, nope.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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