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which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? #2377802
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innovation moves real fast. So i'm looking to get rid of steel heads and get alum ones. mopar ,edelbrock and stage V its for a street strip car.
whats best bang for buck?


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Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: sixpacksteve] #2377807
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Edelbrock by far. High flow and low price.


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Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: sixpacksteve] #2377826
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Are you bracket racing, or heads up? If the ultimate power is most important, Stave V. If the most bang for the $ is important, E-brock


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Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: sixpacksteve] #2377841
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Stage V. Looks stock if that is important to you. Can be ported for more flow than Edelbrocks.

Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: 469runner] #2377845
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I went with Eddys....
Very pleased with my decision!


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Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: sixpacksteve] #2377850
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Stage V big valve.

Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: sixpacksteve] #2377874
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edelbrocks Victor jr's will do more than you need for strip street - but piston design can get tricky because of the changed exhaust valve angle. Also edlebrocks need a big bore as they were designed for the 4.5" bore blocks Edlebrock rep recommended a Min. Bore 4.375” - I am guessing they will work on a smaller bore but may require some additional work. My New HEMI is a 572 with the eddies and we will dyno it hopefully next week

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Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: sixpacksteve] #2377901
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Don't understand what you mean by inaovate moves real fast???? Irion heads will make more power when all things equal.


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Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: JAKE68] #2377967
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the Hemi's have come a long way since the 60's. in the last few, tech is moving faster than ever. more sources than just one.


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Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: sixpacksteve] #2377975
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Originally Posted By sixpacksteve
innovation moves real fast. So i'm looking to get rid of steel heads and get alum ones. mopar ,edelbrock and stage V its for a street strip car.
whats best bang for buck?


For the money, Indy big valve Hi Po Hemi heads....I have the flow numbers. Almost 460cfm if I remember...Call Bob George Racing for pricing.

The Eddy heads, need a specific piston to not have interference issues.


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Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: sixpacksteve] #2377988
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Correct me if I am wrong but the only Edelbrock hemi head needing special piston notching is the latest edelbrock head with the big intake - the exhaust has a different guide angle requiring the special notch. The earlier edelbrock head sold through Mopar Performance ( with conventional valve train oiling ) does NOT need the special exhaust notch.

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Stage V on my 572 ported by FHO


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Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: rowin4] #2378091
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Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: A727Tflite] #2378170
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Originally Posted By Transman
Correct me if I am wrong but the only Edelbrock hemi head needing special piston notching is the latest edelbrock head with the big intake - the exhaust has a different guide angle requiring the special notch. The earlier edelbrock head sold through Mopar Performance ( with conventional valve train oiling ) does NOT need the special exhaust notch.

Yes, the Edelbrock Victor Jr. hemi head is the one w/ the different valve angle.
The older Mopar Performance heads that were cast by Edelbrock are all stock style stuff. They just have the Edelbrock "E" cast into them under the valve cover.


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Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: A727Tflite] #2378235
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Originally Posted By Transman
Correct me if I am wrong but the only Edelbrock hemi head needing special piston notching is the latest edelbrock head with the big intake - the exhaust has a different guide angle requiring the special notch. The earlier edelbrock head sold through Mopar Performance ( with conventional valve train oiling ) does NOT need the special exhaust notch.


Just because the valve angle is different doesn't mean that you need different pistons, or that it's going to cause you problems, etc. This isn't the 60's. Back then people would shave the heads and deck the block to get more compression. This would give you more compression but would decrease the piston to valve clearance. Most engines that people put together now are strokers. With a stroker you can get all the compression you want. Strokers take a lot less dome on the piston. Your street/strip application will probably be for pump gas and not have much dome. My guess is if you check your valve to piston clearance you will find you have a mile.

When using Victor Jr's you do have to check the intake valve to bore clearance if you are using a small bore.


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Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: sixpacksteve] #2378244
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Rickseeman - agreed on several of your points - a good engine builder will always check piston to head and piston to valve clearance on any engine and on a hemiroid - valve to valve clearance. Takes the worry out of being close - too close.

Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: rickseeman] #2378252
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here are the eddy head specific pistons - these are 13-1 customs

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Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: DoubleD] #2378301
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I have the regular ole Mopar Performance Crate Hemi heads on my 528". They flowed around 426 as cast on our flow bench but it still made 853/697 with only 10.5:1 on pump gas, so I am happy enough with them for now.


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Quality on the E-brock valves, are they good for a.800 + roller cam?


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The Edelbrock and Stage V Big Valve heads are rolled on the exhaust and even though they are the wrong angle for a standard valve angle head, you will have at lease .100" more piston to valve clearance than a stock head. - Ray

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