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Re: Street Hemi Intake recommendations
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09/04/14 11:38 PM
09/04/14 11:38 PM
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I read all the tests on 500+ ci HEMI inline intakes and Stage V came out on top, so I bought one, two 750cfm Hollys, etc. Now, lets get real. #1 What are you doing with the car? Street driving? Maybie a pass down the strip?...someday, maybie? What you need to know is, the factory Carter/Edelbrock, carbs have the fuel line inlet on the PASSENGER side. That leaves lots of room for the linkage, kickdown, etc. on the DRIVER side. They did that for a good reason! It gets VERY crowded when you try to cram all of that on the DRIVER side! Then you have air cleaner issues, now you have to order an air cleaner from ONE sours, in CANADA. It is a Bottom feed, NOTHING like the original It cost over $600 and is "polished" aluminum. I spent $300 ADDITIONAL to chrome it. Do you like the original looking hard lines? I went through TWO 8' LENGTHS of stainless tubing, over $300 for tubing benders, I lost track of the hours I spent trying to "mirror image" the fuel lines. I finally got it, sort of, at least the car show judges haven't noticed, but what a pain! I don't have the "Pentastar" emblem embossed on the intake, I am STILL trying to make a decent return spring bracket that doesn't interfere with the fuel lines, and I absolutely MUST run synchronize carb linkage! The Stage V is an open plenum intake, the REAR carb sees the signal from cylinder #1 etc. It HAS to have both carbs opening TOGETHER! Trust me on this. If I had it to do over, I would buy everything in a kit from Mancini for HALF of what I spent. I have built and tuned HEMIs with the factory intake and Edelbrock 600s and they SCARE me with just 426 ci! and PROGRESSIVE linkage. Oh, buy the way, it all BOLTS ON!
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Re: Street Hemi Intake recommendations
[Re: 469runner]
#1667662
09/04/14 11:50 PM
09/04/14 11:50 PM
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Blairsden, CA
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With a "mild" cam, I think you only have two reasonable options,
the Vanke mod dual plane with two Eddy 650 Thunder Series (AVS) carbs
& progressive linkage.. OR the Stage 5 with two Eddy 650's and non progressive linkage. I had a 540 lift solid flat tappet on my 434
Hemi with the Stage 5 & two Eddy 600's (AFB) & ran great with non progressive linkage. I think the Barton single 4 intake & a big carb
would out perform the Vanke 2x4, but a Hemi always looks better, IMO,
with 2 fours. If you go the vanke route, I"m sure some of the Hemi gurus will chime in with the jetting & spark plug variations that balance them out.
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Re: Street Hemi Intake recommendations
[Re: HEMIDOG 70]
#1667665
09/05/14 12:33 AM
09/05/14 12:33 AM
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Spokane Washington
ScottSmith_Harms
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Or, you could use a stock intake and try these. Hemi clone carbs, they are based on Edelbrock 600/750/800 cfm carbs, but use reconditioned original lids and reproduction Street Hemi throttle arms so that all factory air cleaners and small parts fit them as exactly as the factory carbs. If you do the math on buying new unmodified Edelbrocks and associated custom parts to make them work you will likely find the above "clone" option to be very competitively priced and will offer very similar performance on the street. MANY Pure Stock and FAST racers run these carbs on stock (or internally modified for FAST) Street Hemi intakes and make some HUGE HP numbers! 
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Re: Street Hemi Intake recommendations
[Re: 469runner]
#1667666
09/05/14 11:47 AM
09/05/14 11:47 AM
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Stuttgart, Arkansas
rickseeman
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I am close to finishing a Hemi for street driving. 472, Stage V heads, fairly mild cam, TTI headers. Trying to come up with a nice intake manifold and carburetor setup to complement this. Was considering the Mopar dual plane 2X4 with the Vanke modification offered by Arruza. Also wondering if the carburetors can use a progressive linkage as stock or a solid linkage? Would a single 4 barrel be something to be considered? Thanks.
Single 4 barrel is too easy and wouldn't look right on a hemi. Vanke intake would work, I believe Arruzza likes the solid linkage with it. The hardest way, which would probably run the best, I guess would be the Stage V single plane with the aftermarket lower base and Scott's clone carbs. Nothing's easy.
2011 Drag Pak Challenger
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Re: Street Hemi Intake recommendations
[Re: RUNCHARGER]
#1667668
09/05/14 12:56 PM
09/05/14 12:56 PM
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HEMIDOG 70
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I'd like to try AVS' on a Vanke if an Airgrabber is required. Especially if someone makes an Aircleaner for the bigger throats.
The Stage V has wider carb spacing and is I think a quarter inch higher, that's why it's a tough go with a factory airgrabber.
Sheldon
Here is a large throat base set up.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/426-Hemi-Air-Cle...=item3394a4a70e
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Re: Street Hemi Intake recommendations
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#1667670
09/05/14 02:22 PM
09/05/14 02:22 PM
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MD-USA
Dodgeguy101
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I think that guy has the decimal point in the wrong spot. LOL
Yeah, he is pretty proud of them.
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Re: Street Hemi Intake recommendations
[Re: Dodgeguy101]
#1667671
09/05/14 02:45 PM
09/05/14 02:45 PM
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They are pricey. I think I paid $300.00 for a swap meet 4bbl fresh air air cleaner set up. Then $300.00 to modify the base for the 2 4bbl's.
Last edited by HEMIDOG 70; 09/05/14 02:46 PM.
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Re: Street Hemi Intake recommendations
[Re: RUNCHARGER]
#1667672
09/05/14 08:58 PM
09/05/14 08:58 PM
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Tennessee
Hemi ragtop
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I'd like to try AVS' on a Vanke if an Airgrabber is required. Especially if someone makes an Aircleaner for the bigger throats.
The Stage V has wider carb spacing and is I think a quarter inch higher, that's why it's a tough go with a factory airgrabber.
Sheldon
As for the stageV being higher than stock, I don't think so (notice I didn't say I KNEW). All I can say is that I have Zero hood interference, yet a buddy with stock intake and Eddy carbs, had to cut some hood bracing and couldn't clear the factory "Chrome Dome".
What about the "Marine" intake, this would allow larger carbs and I understand that bases are available for any factory style air cleaner?
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Re: Street Hemi Intake recommendations
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#1667673
09/05/14 09:04 PM
09/05/14 09:04 PM
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TN
SCATPACK 1
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How about an old Edelbrock Rat Roaster intake. Works really well on the street and takes the WOW factor way up.
Old Geezer Racing
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Re: Street Hemi Intake recommendations
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#1667674
09/05/14 09:14 PM
09/05/14 09:14 PM
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Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
Dragula
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How about an old Edelbrock Rat Roaster intake. Works really well on the street and takes the WOW factor way up.
Had one.....Talk about distribution issues....Mine I modded the heck out of, and still wasn't great. Made a full plenum 1" spacer, had one inch spacers under the carbs, had all the runners blended for shorter turn radius'...Carbs were modded as well. Jets & squirters were all hand drilled to my sizes and no chokes or anything. If I was going to keep it, I would have been making my own stepped metering rods for the carbs. Could never get them perfect.
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Re: Street Hemi Intake recommendations
[Re: grncpe]
#1667678
09/05/14 11:43 PM
09/05/14 11:43 PM
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Blairsden, CA
Triggerfish
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Hi, The Stage V is 1/4 to 1/2 higher, The one that Aruza sells has been milled. Call to make sure.I think that is how he sold them a few years ago.I have a cuda with a shaker & a stage V. You don't have much room to run spacers on it. I made 836hp & 730 tq with a stage V with two thunder series carbs, of coarse I have more cubes than you. We also have a 472ci. street car with a stock intake & original carbs…….dont waste your time going that route. Do the stage V with the thunder carbs or scotts & never look back! I would call aruza to ask about the milled intake for extra space.
I had John's modded Stage 5 with two Eddy 600's on my 434 & did have the
steel ropop shaker base from Tim Banning. Setup worked great. Wish I'd
have gone with the Thunder 650's but we still got the afb's running pretty
smoothly. Shaker fit well & only was bout 1/4"higher than with the
factory setup, but I also had small 1/8"spacers under the carbs.
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