Re: Who gave up on Ceramic coating??
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You can buy touch up paint to make them look better, but to recoat them they have to remove the coating that is on there and start over.
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Re: Who gave up on Ceramic coating??
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04/09/13 10:49 AM
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How long do you want it to last and what do you want it to look like?
I have touched up the upper part of the tubes with okay success, but have had no luck with the lower tubes and collectors. Especially if any rust has started.
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Re: Who gave up on Ceramic coating??
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04/10/13 02:34 AM
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My headers ceramic coating has flaked off. Has anyone just painted over with good results or is it just better to have them coated again??
Unfortunately, what you're describing is NOT the fault of the ceramic. Immediate dulling and subsequent "flaking" are indicative of catastrophic failure. I.e., you did something wrong. It only takes minutes but somehow you ran it "too lean" or "too fat". Outside of a component failure, this typically results from starting a new, un-tuned engine with your freshly coated headers, or perhaps a dyno run... Another source for failure is bright ceramic on a turbo or supercharged application. A definite NO NO..... These applications and many others require a "High Temp Ceramic" which is rated much higher at 2000F+. It's almost impossible to hurt these without totally destroying an engine first.
The reality of bright ceramic coatings is this, on a properly tuned engine they will last indefinitely. Make a mistake and you'll see it immediately.
It sounds like either Marc didn't teach how to care for your coated headers or you had a mechanical issue. Did you opt for his ID coating as well? Please post some pics and background on the application and I'll I'll tell you how to fix it going forward.
Below are a few samples of some similar problems.
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Re: Who gave up on Ceramic coating??
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did you use heat paint or is there a special type ceramic paint i can buy??
VHT 1500 Ceramic. Pretty good stuff for rattle can.
I have eventually had problems with all the coatings on all my headers including Hooker's ceramic coating.
With one exception; CCP Coatings out of Michigan. It looked different out of the box. Slicker and shinier than any of the others, more like what I think ceramic should look like. All the others looked somewhat duller and rougher in texture.
CCP is all I intend to use in the future.
One thing I always do on start-up is to have a cheap Harbor Freight laser temp gun in hand. I use it for more than the headers.
What color did you use?
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Re: Who gave up on Ceramic coating??
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Who made the headers? The metal obviously was not prepped. Poor workmanship seems to be th norm these days!!
The fact that the headers dulled almost immediately pretty much negates any potential issue with prep. A prep issue will generally surface rather quickly as a chip, bubble, run etc. Beyond that, most failures come down to improper application / usage.
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Re: Who gave up on Ceramic coating??
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04/10/13 09:51 PM
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My headers ceramic coating has flaked off. Has anyone just painted over with good results or is it just better to have them coated again??
I just had my TTI headers ceramic coated by Sanderson (a well known comapny) and they lasted a whole couple of days untill it fell off too.
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