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Converter for 10sec pump gas 408 stroker #1346410
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Just wondering what size and stall converters everyone is using behind their 408's? Obviously it is combo dependent (if you don't mind sharing that, it would be great too!) but im just trying to get an idea if my pumpgas build would be better optimized with an 8" or if something like a 9.5" would work as well. I want to spray this thing as well on the odd occasion with a 100-150 shot, but I know it is hard to get the best of both worlds.

Obviously I will call a converter manufacturer and get them to spec me what they think, but just curious to hear what others are using and what times they are running. 408, 94 pump gas motor, solid cam, 4.10 gear, 28" tire, 904, 3400lb car

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Matthew

Re: Converter for 10sec pump gas 408 stroker [Re: mshred] #1346411
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I have a Hughes ProComp4500 in my 72 dart 408.I run a powerglide,same gear and tire as you.Car only weighs 2800 with me in it and its run a best of 10.61.I absolutely love this converter and i gained at leat three tenths and 3 mph over my other converter.

Re: Converter for 10sec pump gas 408 stroker [Re: jst19600] #1346412
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i use a an 8" 5400 stall.

Re: Converter for 10sec pump gas 408 stroker [Re: jst19600] #1346413
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I have a Hughes ProComp4500 in my 72 dart 408.I run a powerglide,same gear and tire as you.Car only weighs 2800 with me in it and its run a best of 10.61.I absolutely love this converter and i gained at leat three tenths and 3 mph over my other converter.




What size is that converter?

Re: Converter for 10sec pump gas 408 stroker [Re: mshred] #1346414
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Mine is a little bigger at 427ci. Changed from a 9.5 edge that flashed to 5600 to a continental 8" that flashes 5600. Lost about 10lbs.! Car picked up a little more then a .10th now 10.22 @ 130. in 2200' air.

New 8" is still loose at about 9.2%, will come out soon to get tightened up. The 8" will cost more but for me it's the way to go.



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Re: Converter for 10sec pump gas 408 stroker [Re: Just-a-dart] #1346415
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Pump gas 408, 3260#, 4.10 gears, 28" tire, 727, I run a 9.5" Edge that flashes 5000. Best 60' 1.38, 1.40-1 in the heat on radials.

Re: Converter for 10sec pump gas 408 stroker [Re: justinp61] #1346416
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390"
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8" PTC
4800 flash
1.47 60 foot
10.75 @ 123


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Re: Converter for 10sec pump gas 408 stroker [Re: Triple Threat] #1346417
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i have a 9" ptc 4600 stall that was built for nitrous. only has 20 passes on it. non with spray. went 10.41 on motor alone. i'm looking to sell. pm me if you would like

Re: Converter for 10sec pump gas 408 stroker [Re: justinp61] #1346418
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Pump gas 408, 3260#, 4.10 gears, 28" tire, 727, I run a 9.5" Edge that flashes 5000. Best 60' 1.38, 1.40-1 in the heat on radials.




What e/t's? A 9.5" would be nice if it could get me where I wanted to be

Re: Converter for 10sec pump gas 408 stroker [Re: Just-a-dart] #1346419
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Mine is a little bigger at 427ci. Changed from a 9.5 edge that flashed to 5600 to a continental 8" that flashes 5600. Lost about 10lbs.! Car picked up a little more then a .10th now 10.22 @ 130. in 2200' air.

New 8" is still loose at about 9.2%, will come out soon to get tightened up. The 8" will cost more but for me it's the way to go.




Sounds promising! I know different manufacturers will spec different sizes obviously depending on combo and intended usage, just trying to get ideas from everyone here as to what works for them though.

Re: Converter for 10sec pump gas 408 stroker [Re: mopar dave] #1346420
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i use a an 8" 5400 stall.




Any details on the combo?

Re: Converter for 10sec pump gas 408 stroker [Re: mshred] #1346421
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408 pump gas 3.73s 3425lbs 904 with low gear set 9.5 dynamic that flashes to 4800, best 60ft so far is 1.55 on drag radials.
I really like the convertor because I can throw 3.23s in the car and go on a trip.
But I do think an 8 inch would work better,I have one in my other street car and it works great on the street.

Re: Converter for 10sec pump gas 408 stroker [Re: mshred] #1346422
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Pump gas 408, 3260#, 4.10 gears, 28" tire, 727, I run a 9.5" Edge that flashes 5000. Best 60' 1.38, 1.40-1 in the heat on radials.




What e/t's? A 9.5" would be nice if it could get me where I wanted to be




It has ran 6.57 (1/8) in good air several times and will go 6.69-70 in street trim in the heat. I need to buy an o2 meter and tune the carb, it's pig rich.

Re: Converter for 10sec pump gas 408 stroker [Re: Darryls-Demon] #1346423
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Here is a 67 Barracuda 3200 lbs

408 with 4.30 gear
904 trans low gearset
30 in slicks, SS springs
8in converter 5000 stall
so far best 1.47sec 60'
10.65 1/4


Dan

Re: Converter for 10sec pump gas 408 stroker [Re: Wedgeman] #1346424
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i'm sorry i missed in the original post that you use a 904. my converter is for a 727

Re: Converter for 10sec pump gas 408 stroker [Re: w2stroker] #1346425
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I use an 8" ATI treemaster 4800 stall. Times in sig. Calculated slip is 5.8%. It's mostly a street car. You can run an 8" on the street. Just not a cheap one.I think you'd be faster with an 8.


10.56 at 125.6, with a 1.43 60 ft. E85, Hyd. Roller 410 magnum,full exhaust, 3500 race weight.
Re: Converter for 10sec pump gas 408 stroker [Re: justinp61] #1346426
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I used to run a Frank Lupo's Dynamic 9.5 inch conv 4200 stall. It would go 1.42 on motor and 1.37 on a 175 shot. This was with a 385" with a 904 low gear set and 4.56 gears with a 29/10 QTP.The car would go 10.70s on motor and 9.70s on spray. Pump gas with edelbrock RPM heads.

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Re: Converter for 10sec pump gas 408 stroker [Re: jst19600] #1346427
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I have a Hughes ProComp4500 in my 72 dart 408.I run a powerglide,same gear and tire as you.Car only weighs 2800 with me in it and its run a best of 10.61.I absolutely love this converter and i gained at leat three tenths and 3 mph over my other converter.




The most important question, you might want to ask is....... What converter and what kind of slippage numbers do you get thru the traps.......

Re: Converter for 10sec pump gas 408 stroker [Re: 10.90 Racer] #1346428
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I run a PTC 8in converter , but it is not a 408, its a pump gas 394ci. I was running 5.13 gears but I broke the rear at the last race.All I have is 3.50 gears I am going to try.Hope the trans does not get to hot with the high gears.

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1.33 60 ft,6.21 at 110.59 in the 1/8, pump gas small block,2950lbs,drag radials,mufflers and driven to track ...
Re: Converter for 10sec pump gas 408 stroker [Re: 10.90 Racer] #1346429
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I have a Hughes ProComp4500 in my 72 dart 408.I run a powerglide,same gear and tire as you.Car only weighs 2800 with me in it and its run a best of 10.61.I absolutely love this converter and i gained at leat three tenths and 3 mph over my other converter.




The most important question, you might want to ask is....... What converter and what kind of slippage numbers do you get thru the traps.......




That is definitely a good question Steve, lets throw that out there then too....Anybody care to share what slip they were seeing with their combos and the converter they used?







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