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Re: Hemi vs Wedge
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08/15/12 01:01 AM
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Nice to own a Hemi?Oh Yeah!!!! But at what point does the Hemi own YOU? (kinda like my Cat...)  Again,just enjoying the info. I actually cannot find anything said here I can violently disagree with.Very very good points, and well spoken. I bet the Shivver-Lay boys don't have too many of these "spirited" discussions 
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Re: Hemi vs Wedge
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08/15/12 08:33 PM
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I bet the Shivver-Lay boys don't have too many of these "spirited" discussions
Now this is really small minded thinking, sorry. 
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Re: Hemi vs Wedge
[Re: HYPER8oSoNic]
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08/28/12 02:58 AM
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OK, one more detail,and will have enough info to keep me occupied until I can afford a Hemi, or I gack...whichever comes first. On the basis of what I have been told here, (and it all seems to be pretty good mostly first hand experience),is it safe to say that my thinking bigger cubic inch is better with even a stock or "legend" Hemi head, up to a point? Seems like the flow #s I've seen over the years support this (within reason),as it looks like you would be good up to 500" easily? I often thought the Hemi really would have been even more spectacular in NASCAR at 500", without that pesky 7 liter limit.(And some incredibly violent and mortal crashes at upwards of 250MPH, no doubt) Final thoughts,guys? 
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Re: Hemi vs Wedge
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09/05/12 11:24 PM
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OK, one more detail,and will have enough info to keep me occupied until I can afford a Hemi, or I gack...whichever comes first.
On the basis of what I have been told here, (and it all seems to be pretty good mostly first hand experience),is it safe to say that my thinking bigger cubic inch is better with even a stock or "legend" Hemi head, up to a point?
Seems like the flow #s I've seen over the years support this (within reason),as it looks like you would be good up to 500" easily?
I often thought the Hemi really would have been even more spectacular in NASCAR at 500", without that pesky 7 liter limit.(And some incredibly violent and mortal crashes at upwards of 250MPH, no doubt)
Final thoughts,guys?
Yeah ... i agree with the flow #s supporting 500 cubes, maybe a bit more. 7 litre limit didn't stop the high speed handling/tire problems in the mid/late 60's, it magnified it. Motors were making power, chassis and tire science barely could keep up back then.
"Stupidity is Ignorance on Steroids"
"Yeah, it's hopped to over 160" (quote by Kowalski in the movie Vanishing Point 1970 - Cupid Productions)
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Re: Hemi vs Wedge
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09/12/12 04:27 AM
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Guys, this argument is retarded. They are different engine designs that were engineered from the outset for different reasons and have evolved (like just about any other Brand X engine) over the years with the growth/expansion of the aftermarket. I love em all and am grateful to at least to be able to have the CHOICE to go either Big Cube Hemi or Wedge. I had to contemplate both engines when deciding which way to go for my atreet/strip ride and decided to go with the Hemi  Why ? First, the'yre thin on the ground down here in Oz. So the cool factor is thru the roof. Second, I horse-traded to enable me to pony up the coin (which by the way was'nt that much more than a similarly equipped Wedge) Third, spark plug access in my car was gonna be important. Four, from what I saw of most decent cube Wedge builds, Hp/TQ wise on pump gas with street friendly roller sticks they were topping out at 720-750 HP on pump gas - the Hemi build made another 150+ more HP and TQ with an "easy on springs" ramped roller on pump gas. Five, every MoPar guy has to at least own ONE Hemi in his lifetime ( and the planets aligned so I took the plunge. Both are kool, build what ya want and have a blast with it. No wonder brand Xers rag on us MoPar guys - anyone reading this thread would think we were a buncha kids. Lifre's too SHORT.  Race ?
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Re: Hemi vs Wedge
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09/12/12 10:11 AM
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Guys, this argument is retarded.
They are different engine designs that were engineered from the outset for different reasons and have evolved (like just about any other Brand X engine) over the years with the growth/expansion of the aftermarket.
I love em all and am grateful to at least to be able to have the CHOICE to go either Big Cube Hemi or Wedge.
I had to contemplate both engines when deciding which way to go for my atreet/strip ride and decided to go with the Hemi
Why ?
First, the'yre thin on the ground down here in Oz. So the cool factor is thru the roof.
Second, I horse-traded to enable me to pony up the coin (which by the way was'nt that much more than a similarly equipped Wedge)
Third, spark plug access in my car was gonna be important.
Four, from what I saw of most decent cube Wedge builds, Hp/TQ wise on pump gas with street friendly roller sticks they were topping out at 720-750 HP on pump gas - the Hemi build made another 150+ more HP and TQ with an "easy on springs" ramped roller on pump gas.
Five, every MoPar guy has to at least own ONE Hemi in his lifetime ( and the planets aligned so I took the plunge.
Both are kool, build what ya want and have a blast with it. No wonder brand Xers rag on us MoPar guys - anyone reading this thread would think we were a buncha kids.
Lifre's too SHORT.
Race ?
1. 97.3% of all internet arguements are retarded.
2. 63.4% of all statistics are made up.
3. Who gives a flying f what brand Xers think???
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Re: Hemi vs Wedge
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09/13/12 01:45 AM
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Haha nice Jim....
My point is build what you like/want/can afford.
Most of it is all in fun...really...If you have thin skin, then the internet isn't going to work for you...(I am not referring to anyone on particular)....
The thing that I dont understand is that whenever someone debates the Hemi vs wedge thing on this site it seems to have an underlying "have's vs have not's" tone... I dont get this.  I know plenty of ordinary folks, including myself, that have hemi cars(yes, even "real" ones). Its not some special club with a secret handshake, you just have to want it!
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Re: Hemi vs Wedge
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09/13/12 06:42 AM
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Haha nice Jim....
My point is build what you like/want/can afford.
Most of it is all in fun...really...If you have thin skin, then the internet isn't going to work for you...(I am not referring to anyone on particular)....
The thing that I dont understand is that whenever someone debates the Hemi vs wedge thing on this site it seems to have an underlying "have's vs have not's" tone... I dont get this. I know plenty of ordinary folks, including myself, that have hemi cars(yes, even "real" ones). Its not some special club with a secret handshake, you just have to want it!
MB
I agree 110%! If most of you guys Hemi or wedge knew what I make a year and what my net worth is you'd wonder how I even put gas in the truck. I've owned a real Hemi car, built a 528 and now a 605.
It comes down to how much do you want it and what are you willing to give up to get it.Dave
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Re: Hemi vs Wedge
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09/13/12 10:49 AM
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Im with ya Dave. Like I said in my OP, I horse traded my way to a pump gas 850HP/770TQ Hemi and Im glad. You have to WANT IT, like anything else. No elitism here, I love big Wedges too.
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Re: Hemi vs Wedge
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09/13/12 03:07 PM
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First off, only 3 people on planet Earth have ever seen a 427 SOHC
I just found out that Im one of three people(I've seen three of them) AND a Hemi owner..and proud of it!
I must be truely special!
Next you're gonna tell me you've seen the elusive dinosaur!!!
There are two cars with the 427 SOHC in my area that I see. One is a 63 Galaxy that is done right as it looks like it came from the factory with it as the guy did a nice job with it. The other is an old hot rod as it looks to be about a 34 or so Ford with the Cammer. Let me tell you I was surprised to see that Cammer in that hot rod as thats the first time I have ever seen one in a hot rod and it got alot of attention. They did run strong when running right. Don Nicholsons Maverick in the 70 to 73 Era of Pro Stock could run with any of them when they had that cammer running right and not breaking parts. You gotta remember its a hemi with overhead cams. Here is a pic of the eng in the 63 Galaxy. Ron
Very cool car.
I used to work at MAS (Midwest Auto Specialties) back in the mid-'80s. Anyone rememeber them? They always had the full page ads in Hot Rod selling fiberglass hoods, scoops, and front ends. Anyway, the owner/boss Gary had a T-Bucket with a Ford Cammer in it. It just sat there for years in the showroom/front of store on Hennipen Avenue in Minneapolis collecting dust. So I guess I'm one of the three that has seen one in person. I wonder where it is now.
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Re: Hemi vs Wedge
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09/13/12 04:13 PM
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Re: Hemi vs Wedge
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I remember seeing the T bucket with the Cammer in it at MAS. I also like the cammers! It is a hemi to. I was wondering who ownes it now also?
HEMI,S ARE FOREVER!!!
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