I'm really surprised at how this (and the other related) thread has evolved. I've no personal dealings w/ either Jeff or Bob, but really feel I have to ask something to understand the context of this situation...

Bob, are you independently wealthy? I get the impression - perhaps completely inaccurate - that your racing business (hobby?) doesn't need to be profitable and you support fellow racers by not having to operate under the same business model that someone like Jeff does.

If that's even close to the truth, trying to compare what you offer the racing community vs. what Jeff does is approaching an apples-to-oranges situation.

Thanks, and my regards to the both of you. - Brad