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to top that off - after all the ebay follow ups - still had to pay in full both ways and absorb the loss they gave him a FULL refund pulling
from my paypal account + 3% confused


And most recently: now paypal keeps the fees BOTH times (payment & the refund) that the seller loses in addition to 2x shipping if returned. You Can't even give a partial ebay refund (minus PP fees). to recoup your sale fees. Must be a full refund. So to recoup sale fees you must lose those PP fees. As stated on the community forum: "Don't sell anything thing on ebay you Can't afford to lose" .