And I get that but have customers running a bit less than me but the 500+ cubes and even 3.55's and tighter vert's are no problem for them trust me. for the op about the 505 stroker deal, I think he might as well buy a modern heap since he wants EFI and economy BUT may hit the track a few times a year......To each his own but you guys are turning a potential beast into a tamer than it needs to be deal and just seems like a waste in some ways by building big and tuning small..........