Originally Posted By DUFFMAN
Originally Posted By Spaceman Spiff
Originally Posted By RamblerMan
I don't see what all the fuss is about. have never seen one break out of the 14's. I have two buddies with them and while they are decent performers for their time-period, I've seen Turbo Dodges hand them their ass. My little Shelby will run right with my friends' GN. He'll usually get me by a nose because I have to shift while he doesn't. Big heavy boats that are still underpowered.


To me, they'll always be the cars my teachers drove in Grade School/High School. Granny's Grocery Getters.


Your STOCK Shelby, can run with a STOCK grand national?


Grand National - 3400 lb
1982 4.1l NA V6 - 125 hp - 27.2 lb/hp
1982 3.8l Turbo V6 - 175 hp - 19.4 lb/hp
1983 3.8l Turbo V6 - 190 hp - 17.9 lb/hp
1984 3.8l Turbo V6 - 200 hp - 17.0 lb/hp
1986-87 3.8l Turbo Intercooled V6 - 235 hp - 14.5 lb/hp

GNX - 3400 lb
1987 3.8l Turbo Intercooled V6 - 276 hp - 12.3 lb/hp

GLHS - 2295 lb
1986 (Omni) 2.2l Turbo Intecooled I4 - 175 hp - 13.1 lb/hp
1987 (Charger) 2.2l Turbo Intecooled I4 - 175 hp - 13.1 lb/hp

Daytona ShelbyZ - 2690 lb
1987-88 2.2l Turbo Intecooled I4 - 175 hp - 15.4 lb/hp

So yes, it's believable that a stock Shelby Dodge would be faster than a Grand National. Based on these numbers it's surprising there isn't more of a following for turbo Dodges.


Thanks for that. wink
And yeah, my friends' is an '84 or '85. It's quick, don't get me wrong I'm not knocking the car. What I am questioning is the fanboys who'll whip out their genitals and fawn all over these cars like they are the end-all, be-all of automotive exuberance.
If my friend were on here, he'd admit the same thing. It is a very cool daily driver but not a giant killer by any stretch. It's just something different that you don't see everyday.

They are cool cars, but they really are not that fast and in my mind, don't deserve the reputation that precedes them.

It's quite the opposite for the Turbo Dodges. They ARE genuinely quick rides (when you consider they've only got 4-cylinders) and yet, don't get anywhere near the recognition they deserve.

Last edited by RamblerMan; 05/29/18 01:50 AM.
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