The lifters are on their way to Isky, so in about a week or so I should have some parts to test.
Now to figure out why I have three relatively new intake rockers with busted needle bearing cages I've seen them break on the outer edge of the cage next to the snap rings, but these are all broken inside, where there shouldn't be any side load. I am glad I took the time to check them. They felt fine till I tried to rotate them a full 360 around the shafts, then I could feel some bind, and found the broken ones.