Thanks for the info 696pack, very interesting. Wouldn't that reinforce what I said though? If the dealers ordered from the new car show wouldn't the forms they are filling out be from a big stack that would have consecutive numbers? I am assuming the new car dealer shows were regional so that would reinforce what was said? If a dealer then ordered new forms then of course it would be a different set of numbers but all the orders from the new car should as well as the forms each dealer brought back with them should be in a rough sequence.