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Re: Challenger
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04/30/11 01:23 PM
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I have not seen one - yet. Have you found one? Both colors would be banana, so all you would see are the masking tape lines.  A white Challenger with a white bee stripe exists, so does a purple one with a purple stripe.
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Re: Challenger
[Re: Alaskan_TA]
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05/02/11 01:44 PM
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Is it still in original paint? The others I have seen with the same body paint / stripe color have all been repainted in the past. I would love to see an original example. Any photos or data on the car you can share?
Not all of them.
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Re: Challenger
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05/02/11 01:57 PM
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I have not seen one - yet. Have you found one?
Both colors would be banana, so all you would see are the masking tape lines.
A white Challenger with a white bee stripe exists, so does a purple one with a purple stripe.
I have records for the following same stripe combos in my records:
EW1/V9W - White
FC7/V9C - Plum Crazy
EK2/V9K - Go Mango
FF4/V9F - Green
I know Galen also has Black and Banana cars in his records, but I don't have the info for them.
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Re: Challenger
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05/02/11 02:18 PM
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slightly off topic, and nothing personal against the OP, but when did Mopar guys start using codes to describe things? I seem to see it more and more, and I have no idea what the questions are...... 
Silly question in the A12 forum  
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Re: Challenger
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05/02/11 03:36 PM
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I thought there was a black/black car mentioned here on moparts a while back, but the guy never came up with pictures.
There was a black/black car on eBay with a fake tag. Not sure if that's the one that you mean.
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Has an original paint car finaly been found?
Not that I know of. I'm pretty sure the paint on mine is original, but not so much the stripe (though it is old). It's over the body paint and is lacquer, not enamel. Could have been done at any time in it's life. Not sure when the black engine compartment and rear panel were done either.
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Are we sure that the colors were really exactly the same, and that the stripe color wasn't slightly different?
We're not sure of anything. The stripe list does call the stripes Go-Mango, Banana, and Plum Crazy though, for example. The paint code for black pinstripes differs from TX9. The white pinstipe paint code is the same as EW1, but I've heard there is other documentation where it is different.
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Does this mean you're going to fix that Challenger now Ken?
The pink one isn't quite done yet. Money is a lot tighter now than when I bought the white car 3 years ago, so I'm not sure I'll ever get that one done.
That's all I know now Tav.
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Re: Challenger
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05/02/11 03:41 PM
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Both colors would be banana, so all you would see are the masking tape lines.
Barry, do you think they would have gone to all that trouble, as opposed to catching it before they painted the stripe and just not masking and painting it?
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Re: Challenger
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05/02/11 09:52 PM
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Both colors would be banana, so all you would see are the masking tape lines.
Barry, do you think they would have gone to all that trouble, as opposed to catching it before they painted the stripe and just not masking and painting it?
Yep, I do. The folks masking the stripes most likey just did their job. After the stripe paint was sprayed & baked, the maskers would then do their job & send it for body paint. In some of these cases, the folks removing the masking materials likely had a good chuckle when they realized the paint colors were the same. 
Hopefully some original same color examples show up someday so we know for sure though.
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Re: Challenger
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05/03/11 09:56 AM
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Stripe was painted first then masked and then the body was painted...
Stripe was gloss same as body...
"The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."
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Re: Challenger
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05/03/11 11:02 AM
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I'm sure the original cars I've looked at were done that way, probably because to spray just the stripe once the car is painted would require allot more masking...
And yes I'm sure the stripes were gloss..
"The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."
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Re: Challenger
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05/03/11 04:45 PM
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Any pictures?
I have a fender tag decoded by Galen and he states stripes were semi gloss...
A Challenger fender tag for a V9* stripe, or something different? There were tape stripes that were semi gloss, but the painted Challenger bumble bee stripes were gloss.
My 70 R/T was original paint before I started on it, and the stripe was clearly painted first, then the body color.
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Re: Challenger
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05/04/11 12:39 PM
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The stripe paint and the body paint were the same?? And why didn't they use a decal for this stripe option like the horizontal one?
They don't look the same on the white car above.
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Re: Challenger
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05/04/11 02:31 PM
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The stripe paint and the body paint were the same?? And why didn't they use a decal for this stripe option like the horizontal one?
They don't look the same on the white car above.
When I painted my stripe on my 70 Challenger I bought the paint EW1 per paint code (single stage) 2x , and both times it was to creamy, 3rd time I ended up sanding down the trunk lid and took it in to have it matched. The difference was almost like picture shows on above pictured challenger.
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Re: Challenger
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05/04/11 05:30 PM
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The stripe paint and the body paint were the same?? And why didn't they use a decal for this stripe option like the horizontal one?
They don't look the same on the white car above.
When I painted my stripe on my 70 Challenger I bought the paint EW1 per paint code (single stage) 2x , and both times it was to creamy, 3rd time I ended up sanding down the trunk lid and took it in to have it matched. The difference was almost like picture shows on above pictured challenger.
Does anyone have the stripe drawing with the list of Ditzler paint codes to use?
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Re: Challenger
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05/04/11 06:13 PM
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When I painted my stripe on my 70 Challenger I bought the paint EW1 per paint code (single stage) 2x , and both times it was to creamy, 3rd time I ended up sanding down the trunk lid and took it in to have it matched. The difference was almost like picture shows on above pictured challenger.
EW1 is actually an antique white.
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Re: Challenger
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05/04/11 06:16 PM
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Does anyone have the stripe drawing with the list of Ditzler paint codes to use?
I've never seen any documentation that lists all the available colors and the paint codes.
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Re: Challenger
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05/05/11 01:46 AM
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When I painted my stripe on my 70 Challenger I bought the paint EW1 per paint code (single stage) 2x , and both times it was to creamy, 3rd time I ended up sanding down the trunk lid and took it in to have it matched. The difference was almost like picture shows on above pictured challenger.
EW1 is actually an antique white.
Bingo, thats is right. 1970 EW1 = more of a dirty , antique, creamy, white as compared to 1971 on up. The color I got the first 2x I had paint mixed (EW1) for my stripe was like the body color on the white EW1 challenger pictured above. My stripe was not that color. It was a shade or two lighter and cleaner looking more like the stripe on said car. If you own that white challenger sand some paint off the trunk lid about a foot up or pop that wing off and let us know how it matches the body color. I bet it's lighter not a true 1970 EW1 (antique) body color white.
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