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Re: Challenger [Re: FC7 cuda] #982996
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I'm sure the original cars I've looked at were done that way, probably because to spray just the stripe once the car is painted would require allot more masking...

And yes I'm sure the stripes were gloss..


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Re: Challenger [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #982997
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Any pictures?
I have a fender tag decoded by Galen and he states stripes were semi gloss...

Re: Challenger [Re: FC7 cuda] #982998
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I have a fender tag decoded by Galen and he states stripes were semi gloss...




A Challenger fender tag for a V9* stripe, or something different? There were tape stripes that were semi gloss, but the painted Challenger bumble bee stripes were gloss.

My 70 R/T was original paint before I started on it, and the stripe was clearly painted first, then the body color.

Re: Challenger [Re: FC7 cuda] #982999
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Think of it this way;

Spray the back of the car stripe color. Bake it & mask the stripe, then spray body color.

Minimal time & masking supplies that way.

If they did body paint first, then they would have to mask the whole car to avoid overspray from the stripe color. More time & masking materials this way, so they did the stripe color first.

Re: Challenger [Re: Alaskan_TA] #983000
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The stripe paint and the body paint were the same?? And why didn't they use a decal for this stripe option like the horizontal one?

Re: Challenger [Re: FC7 cuda] #983001
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The stripe paint and the body paint were the same?? And why didn't they use a decal for this stripe option like the horizontal one?




They don't look the same on the white car above.

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The stripe paint and the body paint were the same?? And why didn't they use a decal for this stripe option like the horizontal one?




They don't look the same on the white car above.




When I painted my stripe on my 70 Challenger I bought the paint EW1 per paint code (single stage) 2x , and both times it was to creamy, 3rd time I ended up sanding down the trunk lid and took it in to have it matched. The difference was almost like picture shows on above pictured challenger.

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Re: Challenger [Re: Beebuzzn] #983003
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The stripe paint and the body paint were the same?? And why didn't they use a decal for this stripe option like the horizontal one?




They don't look the same on the white car above.




When I painted my stripe on my 70 Challenger I bought the paint EW1 per paint code (single stage) 2x , and both times it was to creamy, 3rd time I ended up sanding down the trunk lid and took it in to have it matched. The difference was almost like picture shows on above pictured challenger.





Does anyone have the stripe drawing with the list of Ditzler paint codes to use?

Re: Challenger [Re: Morty426] #983004
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The stripe paint and the body paint were the same?? And why didn't they use a decal for this stripe option like the horizontal one?




They don't look the same on the white car above.




The stripe probably isn't as it left the factory.

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Re: Challenger [Re: Beebuzzn] #983005
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When I painted my stripe on my 70 Challenger I bought the paint EW1 per paint code (single stage) 2x , and both times it was to creamy, 3rd time I ended up sanding down the trunk lid and took it in to have it matched. The difference was almost like picture shows on above pictured challenger.





EW1 is actually an antique white.

Re: Challenger [Re: Morty426] #983006
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Does anyone have the stripe drawing with the list of Ditzler paint codes to use?




I've never seen any documentation that lists all the available colors and the paint codes.

Re: Challenger [Re: KISSAlien] #983007
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When I painted my stripe on my 70 Challenger I bought the paint EW1 per paint code (single stage) 2x , and both times it was to creamy, 3rd time I ended up sanding down the trunk lid and took it in to have it matched. The difference was almost like picture shows on above pictured challenger.





EW1 is actually an antique white.






Bingo, thats is right. 1970 EW1 = more of a dirty , antique, creamy, white as compared to 1971 on up. The color I got the first 2x I had paint mixed (EW1) for my stripe was like the body color on the white EW1 challenger pictured above. My stripe was not that color. It was a shade or two lighter and cleaner looking more like the stripe on said car. If you own that white challenger sand some paint off the trunk lid about a foot up or pop that wing off and let us know how it matches the body color. I bet it's lighter not a true 1970 EW1 (antique) body color white.


Re: Challenger [Re: Beebuzzn] #983008
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We did that 3 years ago when I bought the car and there was no apparent difference between the body and the paint under the brighter white stripe.

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